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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. Whatever time you're joining us, the cousins. Thank you for doing so. Welcome back to the call your cousins podcast, a now tangible group chat of cousins that wanted to share our thoughts, humor, and growth with the world. And everyone's invited. Most of y'all, welcome back to the call your cousins podcast. I'm your host, a dub.
Today we're working with a bit of a skeleton crew. We've got twin here.
Say, what's up?
[00:01:43] Speaker B: Hey, yo.
[00:01:44] Speaker C: What's up?
[00:01:47] Speaker A: We've got the research team here.
[00:01:53] Speaker B: Hey, y'all.
[00:01:54] Speaker A: And of course, a dub. Um, shoot. Let's get into it. What, uh, good morning, fam. Getting pretty hot outside. What y'all got going on for the summer?
[00:02:05] Speaker C: You know, I'm ready for the festivals. Jazz festival, reggae festival, Auburn Avenue Festival. All the festivals. Just bring them on.
It's getting hot outside. I'm ready.
[00:02:21] Speaker A: Outside. Right, right.
[00:02:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm trying to be outside every weekend because the weather is nice, and I only get, like, two and a half months of sun and warmth together. So I'm outside every weekend.
[00:02:37] Speaker C: Is it really two months?
[00:02:40] Speaker B: Um, before, like, they. Yeah, because they closed. They just opened up the pool on Saturday, which is earlier, because normally you don't open up until next month, so that's good. But, yeah, it's only before if. Before it starts getting like that. Cool again. Not cold, but it's just like, I don't think I'm gonna be in the pool, but it's still nice out. But I don't think I would be in the pool.
[00:03:05] Speaker C: So it's officially open. So what you're saying is it's time for me to come back and visit.
That's what I heard, because it was a little too chilly before. I was waiting until it warmed up.
[00:03:18] Speaker B: Yeah, this would be the. This would be the time to come and visit. Yes.
[00:03:24] Speaker C: Is it like 75 or 85?
[00:03:27] Speaker B: It was, like 80 yesterday, but today it's like 70. 75. But remember, like, this 80 is not, like, down south 80, so it's not, like, blistering heat with, like, humidity and stuff like that. It's, like, true.
It's, like, true temperature. I don't know how else to explain it. Like, this is how a normal 80.
[00:03:46] Speaker C: Would feel, like, but you could still walk outside.
[00:03:49] Speaker B: Right, right. And not pass out and die or sweat.
[00:03:53] Speaker C: Tea bomb.
[00:03:54] Speaker A: Our Florida heat was fraud. That's crazy. You saying the Florida 80 is, like, behind it?
[00:03:59] Speaker C: Mm hmm.
[00:04:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:01] Speaker C: I mean, the Georgia 80 is like, yes.
I feel like as soon as it hit 80, really 78, you can get in the pool down here.
I mean, I'm getting in at 75.
[00:04:20] Speaker A: But, yeah, that's facts. Honestly, if it's. If it's above 90 degrees, I don't want to be outside at all. Like, not like that's hot in the south.
[00:04:31] Speaker C: Yes. Yeah, it's. That's too hot that in the pool all the time. But nineties is good for my pool. Shout out to my pool in my backyard. It's good for the pool because then it be hot enough all day. My pool not heated, y'all. It'd be hot enough all day that by the evening time, it'd be. It'd be warm.
[00:04:52] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
[00:04:54] Speaker A: Yeah, that makes sense.
[00:04:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:57] Speaker C: So I like the 90 for that, but otherwise, no.
[00:05:02] Speaker B: Yeah, see, yeah, up here, you is not. It's not temperature controlled either. So that's why it's like, it's almost like you have to wait till, like, almost 203:00 when the sun is, like, kind of high up and, you know, a little bit warmer for the pool to feel like, okay, this is decent because, like, people would jump out of the pool, like, at, like, six or seven, because then it's like, ooh, it's getting a little. Getting a little cool in the pool, you know? I mean.
[00:05:27] Speaker C: I know what you mean because yesterday I went to this podcast festival, and it was, like, 78 degrees, but the sun wasn't out. And I put my arm outside, and I was like, I thought it was 78 outside. It's a little. It's a little chilly. It was, like, cloudy and kind of overcast, but 78. So I thought it was still going to be warm enough, but it was a little. It was a little. It wasn't chilly, but I decided on wearing Jean Capris instead of shorts, and that was perfect. You know what I'm saying?
[00:06:02] Speaker A: Yeah. I love me some 70 ish weather. 70 ish. I'm good right there.
[00:06:12] Speaker C: The festival was great. I went solo. Shout out to people that hang out by themselves. Side note, I told people I went to the festival by myself, and people was like, why would you go by yourself? I'm like, first of all, the festival was $60, so I didn't want to be like, hey, y'all, come to this festival with me, and I don't even know if it's gonna be good. And really, I'm just going for some business intel. You got dollar 60.
So I went by myself.
And another side note is how expensive everything is, y'all. I spent, like, $200 at the festival between parking, which was $30. Atlanta.
[00:06:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:57] Speaker C: Really? Atlanta. $30 for parking. The ticket was $60.01. Drink was $17. Y'all know I had to have two.
The catfish plate was $25, and then my family hat was $40.
[00:07:18] Speaker A: See, man, we. We was taking advantage of us because we know they know we need some catfish.
[00:07:23] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:07:23] Speaker A: They know we need. Now, you.
[00:07:26] Speaker C: You know, I needed the catfish plate. Why y'all got the catfish and fries for $25 now? It was busing. Okay. I meant to tell y'all in the chat, it gave our family a run for his money, because, you know, we be. We judging the catfish for real.
[00:07:42] Speaker A: That's cat treachery and lies will get you nowhere. That's crazy.
[00:07:46] Speaker C: It wasn't better, but we would have ate it if we had that at the fish fry. It would have been like, okay, somebody know what they doing. It ain't the family catfish, but somebody better know what they doing.
So it was good. But anyway, my point in saying that is I wanted to give a recap, because this was really a business trip. I was going for some intel. I really didn't know what to expect, but. And this was the. This was called. I'll tell you what it is. It's called the Black Effect Podcast Festival. So it was specifically for black people. And they had different food trucks, they had a bar, and they had different panels. And of people who already have successful podcasts, you know, giving us business advice. And for people with up and coming podcasts, you know, just giving us some. Some advice as black entrepreneurs.
And I really didn't know what to expect from it. So I was just going, you know, we are kind of in our infancy phase in our podcast, so just trying to go see what tips I could get. And my point in mentioning the $200 is now I have to buy all that stuff, but even minus the hat and the drinks, I still spent like 150. And I feel like that is kind of a testament to sometimes you got to spend money to make money, you know, because even if I hadn't bought nothing, the ticket was $60, which I kind of felt like was a lot.
But you know how we do. I feel like we kind of overcharge our own people, you know what I'm saying? But I guess I'm just saying sometimes you got to spend money to make money. So, anyway, I feel like it was worth it because they had this thing called pitcher podcast, and it was, whether your podcast was a concept or you're already up and running, whatever, you get two minutes to tell them what your podcast is about, and they're. They're going to listen to everything and then figure out who they want to pick and move forward with the podcast. And so, like I said, I wasn't ready, but I got me a drink, and I spent an hour or so just kind of gauging what everybody was talking about and putting my pitch together. And so the pitch was two minutes. My pitch was right on .2 minutes on the dot. I feel like I went longer than everybody else because people was just kind of winging it, as was I. But if you stay ready, you ain't got to get ready. And so we have. We already had a lot of our business plan laid out and what our podcast is. And so I just kind of sat there with my drink and put together real fast in notes, you know, what we're about and what I wanted to talk about and what we need their help with and our socials. So I know some of our audiences, black entrepreneurs, and not necessarily in the podcast space, but if you're going out on your own, I just want to give some advice.
Stay ready, okay. Be ready to pitch at all times to whomever. Don't be afraid to do it, because I was afraid. Like I said, I spent like an hour just getting ready, but I still did it, and I didn't let that fear hold me back. And it was good practice. So even if they don't pick me, I'm now comfortable pitching on the spot to anybody. So to y'all out there, don't be afraid. You know, if you're trying to get your business up and running, sometimes you got to try something different. Be open to new opportunities and ready on the fly.
So that's my business advice for today.
[00:11:31] Speaker A: I mean, I think it was great that you were able to just put something together and just go do it. And I know the rest of us couldn't be there with you. But I know you. You know, you did your thing. You represented us in the podcast.
Well, and a lot of times people are afraid, but all you got to do is just go do it because you're going to feel so much better afterward, and you realize, damn, I'm still alive and it ain't hurting. On.
[00:11:57] Speaker C: Yeah, it was good. I did feel good. After, that's when I got my catfish plate. I was like, okay, I'm ready to eat now. It was great.
And I got me another drink after that.
[00:12:10] Speaker A: So.
[00:12:13] Speaker C: What y'all got? What kind of festivals y'all be having in Miami?
[00:12:19] Speaker A: All the music festivals. Rolling loud. What's the other one? The Edm one.
[00:12:25] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, they'd be mad about that one because of the noise.
[00:12:27] Speaker A: EdC electronic dance conference or whatever. Is that it?
[00:12:32] Speaker B: We can say that.
[00:12:32] Speaker C: I don't.
[00:12:33] Speaker B: I don't really be attending that one.
[00:12:35] Speaker C: But.
[00:12:38] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a bunch of festivals, not specifically for us, but they there. They there?
[00:12:43] Speaker C: They there.
I've never been to Rolling lab.
[00:12:47] Speaker B: Really?
[00:12:49] Speaker A: Also in Miami, not. It's not really festival, but I guess it could be like a super, super adult festival. Now we have the f one, I think that occurs next month in May. Pardon me?
[00:13:01] Speaker C: I said, oh.
[00:13:03] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. It's a huge deal now. So there's that page. There's a lot of stuff to do in, man. A lot of stuff going on, especially in the summertime.
[00:13:13] Speaker C: Yeah, I definitely have rolling loud on my list, but I don't know about no festival in Miami. It's too damn hot.
[00:13:23] Speaker A: And it's too many. Just uncultured heathens running around. Honestly, like, just too many people. I couldn't.
[00:13:32] Speaker B: I'm gonna say it's a lot of people.
[00:13:34] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, if the. If the.
[00:13:36] Speaker B: If the festival traffic don't get you, it'll be the people traffic that take you out, because it's just a lot of people and you just like. But why?
[00:13:46] Speaker C: Yeah, I was shocked at the traffic the last time I went to Miami, which was maybe two years ago.
Yeah, maybe two years ago. I didn't realize the traffic had got that bad. It's bad.
[00:13:59] Speaker A: What you mean got that bad? It's always been bad.
[00:14:02] Speaker C: It was. It was worse than I had experienced before.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: The thing is, Miami traffic only flows north and south. Really? It ain't like Atlanta, where you can go in any direction, so you pretty much be stuck.
[00:14:16] Speaker B: Pretty much.
[00:14:18] Speaker C: That makes sense. That makes sense.
Well, boy, OJ up out of here.
[00:14:30] Speaker A: RP to the juice.
RP to juice the juice.
[00:14:37] Speaker C: I was going to say, we need to unpack that.
[00:14:42] Speaker A: I mean, definitely, definitely a polarizing figure for sure, but people, people will either don't know because we weren't alive or forget that OJ was incredibly popular before his situations in the nineties.
[00:15:02] Speaker C: Yeah, he was.
I was just excited about how much love the juice man was getting. Okay.
As Atlanta native, I was like, of course, it's gone. Start talking about OJ the juice.
Shout out to OJ the juice man.
Um, I agree that OJ is a polarizing figure.
And I do think that my opinion is based on me not really being an adult during his time of fame and, like, people loving him as a football star.
I feel like I was introduced to him during the trial in the nineties and I could not understand why anybody liked him because he seemed like an abusive.
But as an adult and coming into my adulthood, I understood the context around Rodney King and, you know, how that was kind of letting him off. They kind of had to because they beat Ronnie King so bad. And so I understand him getting off, but also a part of me is like, I don't know about your taping for OJ. Like, I get it, but. Mmm, I don't know if we gotta do.
[00:16:32] Speaker B: I think he just represented something that we, as a black people, like, hadn't seen in a, like a long time. It's like a black man who was, like, doing really well. He had, you know, kind of everybody behind him, like, not just black people, but, you know, white people loved him. And he was just, he was like that dude.
But, um, I. I definitely share your same sentiment with, like, I don't remember, like, I wasn't around in that part. I just remember the Bronco and the gloves don't fit, so you must have quit like that.
That's all I really remember.
[00:17:10] Speaker C: So shout out to Johnny Cochran. And I think love Johnny Cochran too.
And that really, we were glad that he had him on his team because I love Johnny Cochran, but it was also like, it's OJ doll.
And that brings. Go ahead.
[00:17:33] Speaker A: I was just going to say, I don't think it's for OJ, me personally, it's just the man had his day in criminal court. He got off.
So there was a different situation in civil court, which is why he does. He did owe the victim's families, you know, so much money or whatever, but they didn't convict him, and that's not for. It's kind of out of the court of public opinion at that point. Because he got off. Like, what can you really say?
[00:18:05] Speaker C: I feel like that brings up a broader question that I have that I've been thinking about in the recent months.
Does someone's good deed. And I'm talking particularly about black men. Do their good deeds and charming, likable personality, negate them being an awful person.
Because I hear you saying he had his day in court. But to me, if I know for a fact somebody killed a wife and they get off, I'm. I'm not gonna be like, well, you know, they ain't convicted, man. So let's go to lunch. You know, I'm gonna be like, you got off and good. Maybe good for you, but, nah, you're.
[00:19:00] Speaker A: Still a killer, and we don't know that. And then in our age bracket, OJ doesn't. He's not likable to us. He doesn't. We don't know of any good, Deezer. We just weren't around. All we know is this trial. So all we can really say, well, he get convicted. I mean, we can watch all the document. We don't know nothing. You know what I'm saying?
[00:19:24] Speaker C: Yeah, but I've seen people our age talking about, yeah, oj the man, and he got off. Why y'all. Why y'all still talking about that? He ain't do that. It's like, um.
Were you there?
Weren't you, like, seven? Okay, what you finna say, research team?
[00:19:44] Speaker B: I was gonna say, technically, we don't know if he did or did not. He just wasn't found, like, guilty of that particular crime. So there's that. But to answer your question, whether you're a charismatic bad person or a rude, a hole person, um, like, I think bad is bad. Just, it's. It could be more digestible to the masses if you have, like, some charisma behind being bad. Like, it just might be, you know, people might. It might not off put people at the beginning.
[00:20:27] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't know.
[00:20:30] Speaker A: I don't. I don't. I don't know if he did it. I mean, I don't know if he did it, but do I think that he is definitely responsible? I think there's a very, very good chance he's either responsible or complicit in what happened. Yeah, I do.
[00:20:49] Speaker C: I think that, and I. And I also feel like his actions afterward didn't necessarily make me like him anymore.
[00:21:03] Speaker A: I mean, you're already. You've already been villainized whether you did it or not. I mean, there's a lot of times this happens to people and they just kind of lean into it because it's what they become in your eyes already.
[00:21:16] Speaker C: That's true.
[00:21:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, the narrative is already there.
I agree with, like, I don't know if he did or didn't do it, but I feel like that doesn't take away the player that he was and what he did for black athletes as a whole.
[00:21:38] Speaker C: I guess I feel like, and maybe I will admit that I have a bias against men that seem abusive to me.
I feel like if you are involved at all, like, I agree with you, dub. I don't feel like his hands was completely clean. Maybe he didn't, you know, carry out the killing, but I feel like you're responsible and you were involved. And to me, leaning in and taunting the victims and, like, other people is not the quality of a good person to me.
Like, if I was involved in somebody death and I got off, I'm not writing a book, talking about if I did it. Like, it's just taunting people for no reason. And so his actions afterward made me feel like he was a villain and probably a villain in that story. And I don't feel no type of way that he gone, to be honest.
[00:22:46] Speaker A: So you agree with Caitlin now?
[00:22:49] Speaker C: I don't know about now. Caitlin, right, got you.
I don't know that Caitlin should have said anything at all.
[00:23:01] Speaker B: I know for a fact Caitlyn should have kept.
[00:23:04] Speaker C: Caitlin should have kept mouth close.
[00:23:08] Speaker A: Out of black folks business. That's what that is.
[00:23:11] Speaker B: Worry about your own business that you got going on. You got enough cuz then. Because then you commit vehicular homicide. Oh, and got clean.
[00:23:21] Speaker C: Tell us. Tell us what, Kate. For the people who didn't see it.
[00:23:26] Speaker B: It was just like a situation where at the time when he was a man or identified as a male, he hit somebody and then killed the lady. And now he, Caitlyn, she is coming back and saying, hey, good riddance. Are, you know, so OJ being gone, sir, you don't, you can't. You when. I mean, as humans, we're not perfect. Got it. But you, you literally killed someone.
All evidence pointing to you and you calling out somebody else. Nah, nah. Stay in your vehicular homicide lane. Keep your mouth closed.
[00:24:06] Speaker A: Crazy.
[00:24:07] Speaker C: Can we tell the people, for those who don't know, Caitlin's relationship to this.
[00:24:14] Speaker B: Whole Caitlyn Jenner, formerly known as Bruce Jenner, ex husband of Kris Jenner. Jesus, it's a lot.
[00:24:26] Speaker C: Lord have mercy, is breaking down for the people because we wasn't really, some of us wasn't really alive back then.
Right.
[00:24:35] Speaker B: So Bruce Jenner, oh, you know, Olympic, you know, athlete, married Kris Jenner, who happened to be, all of them happen to be like real cool friends with OJ Simpson back in the day and.
[00:24:52] Speaker A: Allegedly represented OJ in the case as well.
[00:24:56] Speaker B: Right, right, her.
What's the first husband name?
[00:24:59] Speaker A: Robert Kardashian.
[00:25:01] Speaker B: Right, thank you.
[00:25:02] Speaker C: Right, right.
[00:25:03] Speaker B: So Chris.
[00:25:07] Speaker A: Married Robert simply Kate and Jenner. And guys ain't got this. He's talking about somebody that's separated from him by like three degrees. It like, this has nothing to do with you. And he shouldn't have been talking about in the first place.
[00:25:19] Speaker B: What, they have like pictures together and they look like they was like hanging out at one point back in the day.
[00:25:23] Speaker C: Like used to be like, oh, they was both athletes.
[00:25:27] Speaker B: Yeah, and they were both, yeah, athletes. And you know, allegedly, the rumor mill is that, um, he stopped hanging with OJ or stopped kicking it with him because allegedly, allegedly, heavily on the. Allegedly, Chris was messing with OJ.
Allegedly.
You know, Twitter goes crazy.
[00:25:50] Speaker A: They'd be saying. They'd be saying that. Yeah, but long story long.
[00:25:54] Speaker B: Yeah, it's just not, it's not anyone's place to say.
To say anything like that. When someone has like passed away because he still has like family, like, he still has kids. There are people that still warn him not being on this earth just because we as a public only got exposed to, you know, maybe they're not so positive side or, you know, a really horrible moment in time for him doesn't take away like, there are people who loved him, cared for him, you know what I mean? So it's just like good written, like really.
[00:26:35] Speaker A: I don't even think it's about the family. It's like they're already not here anymore, which is the ultimate. Like, there is nothing after that. You know what I'm saying? It's just very finite. So even if that's how you feel, you don't have to tweet that, you don't have to share your thoughts. You can keep that to yourself if you happy he gone be happy within, like, that's not something that you need to be broadcasting.
[00:27:01] Speaker C: Now, I agree that Caitlin specifically shouldn't be broadcasting anything, but I disagree a bit with not. I've always felt on the fence about not shaming or damning people after they gone. Cuz I don't give up child molester, whatever the good riddance. I don't give who love you or who you brought into the world, you.
But I do agree that Caitlyn shouldn't say nothing.
I'm just saying in general, necessarily.
But I am not that evolved of a human yet. So we all are working progress, you know?
[00:27:44] Speaker A: Yeah. So I guess. I guess they. I guess Caitlin's Caitlyn feelings towards OG is gonna be forever beef.
Kind of like these next two we got coming up. What y'all heard about Quavo.
[00:28:03] Speaker C: Now? Okay, can we start with how the whole beef started? Because I read a whole timeline, but about it because I forgot, like, how did Migos and Chris Brown start?
[00:28:16] Speaker A: They got the scrapping in that parking lot that time, you remember?
[00:28:20] Speaker B: Oh, I didn't even know they had beef until, like, this, cuz y'all know I be in and out, in and out.
[00:28:26] Speaker C: Oh, I read that is. I remember that dove. But I've read that it all start, and I remember this. Remember they was clowning each other on ig one time. They was roasting each other. It was Chris Brown and amigos going back and forth. I don't know if it was Chris Brown and just offset or.
I don't know. But they was roasting each other on ig, and somebody in amigos got pissed off about it, and that's how the whole beef started. Do y'all remember that?
[00:28:57] Speaker B: No.
[00:28:58] Speaker A: Got me on that one. Nope.
[00:29:02] Speaker C: To the scrapping in the parking lot.
[00:29:06] Speaker B: When did that come into play? Can we do, like, a series of events? Like what?
Break it down?
[00:29:13] Speaker C: I don't even know the whole series, to be honest. I just remembered the roasting on IG started it, and then it's just been a series of unfortunate events ever since then.
I don't even doubt. Do you remember when the scrap it in the parking lot happened?
[00:29:31] Speaker A: Uh, it was after some award show. I want to say. What's his name? The little clown kid was there. I want to say Takashi was also there in some kind of capacity. I feel like, unless I'm conflating two different scraps and award shows, Takashi, six nine. Yeah, the one he looked like with all the colors and stuff.
[00:30:00] Speaker B: I just want to say that I appreciate Chris Brown, like, as an artist and entertainer and his overall, like, talent, because, yes, he does r and b well, but he also does this thing called rapping. Well, he's also an actual great, like, painter. He has really good fashion sense. Like, he just, like, overall, it's like he got a lot of tangible talents that lie within him, but he's also about that life, and I just appreciate the consistency that he has through and through, like, as an artist.
[00:30:43] Speaker A: Yeah, we never heard of Chris Brown ducking smoke from literally anybody.
[00:30:47] Speaker C: Nobody never heard of that anyone.
[00:30:51] Speaker B: Stand up. Va. I see you.
[00:30:54] Speaker C: So I found. So, so I found a little timeline.
The fight was at the June 2017 BET awards after Quavo started dating Karrueche.
So it's seven years.
[00:31:16] Speaker B: My God.
[00:31:18] Speaker C: Of beef. Neither one of these people date this person anymore. This person has moved on with her life, and they still.
Still beefing. So.
[00:31:32] Speaker B: So was he. Was Chris Brown mad that Quavo was dating Karrueche, or did Quavo say something crazy about Karrueche? And Chris Brown was like, a. Nah.
[00:31:45] Speaker A: I think the only way Chris Brown could have been mad is if him and Quavo were cool on some kind of level beforehand, because other than that, like, she could go date anybody. Like, what? Why you. Why you mad at him?
[00:32:01] Speaker C: I don't know if this. This is not a full time one of the beef, but it said Chris Brown is the one that approached Quavo at the BET awards. And it's this. I found another timeline. It says Brown reportedly felt betrayed that Quavo dated Tran as he considered him one of his good friends.
[00:32:25] Speaker A: Yep. See, it was cool. There you go.
[00:32:28] Speaker B: All right, well, we got it, though.
[00:32:32] Speaker C: Brown. I think that the rest. So member Karrueche filed a restraining order against Chris Brown.
This says, according to TMZ, Brown didn't think it was a mere coincidence that she only filed so she could freely date Quavo, which, I mean, why would she need to restrain order to freely date Quavo unless she thought she was finna attack?
But anyway, and then they have the altercation backstage.
[00:33:03] Speaker B: So I have a question for those, since he's the guy on. On here. So is that, like, going against, like, bro code or something? Like, if you cool, what, you date your home boys ex or, like, what's the. What's the rules of engagement on it?
[00:33:23] Speaker A: I mean, that's absolutely against bro code, but it really just depends on what level of bros you are. If you're just an acquaintance, then I don't think either person can be mad. But if that's your dog, like, y'all cool.
[00:33:37] Speaker B: Cool.
[00:33:38] Speaker A: Y'all have an understanding, and, yeah, 100% against the rules, but I feel like white people be doing that. Like, if one of them died or get divorced, they'd be dating.
[00:33:51] Speaker C: Oh, they did.
[00:33:53] Speaker A: I feel like they get in that bag. That's the bag right there.
[00:33:57] Speaker B: That's exactly what they do.
[00:34:00] Speaker C: But is that just bro code? Because I feel like I wouldn't. I would never date one of your exes research team. That would be weird.
[00:34:09] Speaker B: Correct. But I think, um, like, as a girl, Cole, like, I don't know if I necessarily believe in, like, girl code per se, because I don't. I'm not attracted. I'm just not attracted to any of my friends. Like, we have such different tastes. Like, it's not even. That would never be an option for me. You know what I mean? Like, I would never, like, date or, like, try to talk to one of twins exes or vice versa. Like, we just two different people. Like, it's like we don't even have the same taste, so that would never be an issue. But I honestly wouldn't.
I don't know. I just. I feel differently. Like, the person that.
That my ex was with me may not be the same person he is with his, you know, current or future partner. So we would literally have two different experiences with two different people. Like, you know what I mean?
[00:35:06] Speaker C: We would. But I don't think that would.
I think we would still feel some type of way if somebody close to us dated, like, an egg, not somebody that you just messed with. And I think that's. Yeah, I think men still be kind of mad even if you just mess.
You can. You can tell us if we wrong. I'm not a man. Sometimes it seemed like men still be mad even if you just messed with the girl. And it's not like, a true.
[00:35:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:36] Speaker C: Relationship. See, and I think that's the difference, because I wouldn't care if you messed with somebody that I used to mess with.
[00:35:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
Okay. Yeah, I agree along those lines. Like, if it was just nothing, like, no, serious. But if we was like, oh, no, this is like a four year committed relationship we were in, I would definitely feel some type of way.
[00:35:56] Speaker C: Correct. But if y'all just used to fuck around, I don't care.
[00:36:00] Speaker B: These. Yeah, these negroes for everybody, so.
Yeah.
[00:36:05] Speaker C: Is that fair, Dub?
[00:36:11] Speaker A: I don't know if they used to just mess around. Like, I'm probably like, whatever, I don't care. Especially if I ain't with the chick no more.
[00:36:18] Speaker C: Right? I don't care.
So they asked Karrueche what she thinks, and I just felt like that was necessary because, oh, no, she hasn't been victimized enough.
And I don't know. I mean, maybe I'm just not a man beefing over a girl that you. Both of y'all used to date and nobody is currently with. It's kind of crazy to me from.
[00:36:49] Speaker A: Seven years ago, bro. That's the wild part, like, seven years.
[00:36:55] Speaker C: And then they was talking about sweetie too.
Either of these women.
[00:37:01] Speaker A: So what do we do? Don't they say, like, when you file for bankruptcy, like, it come off your credit after, like, seven years or something? They. This would need to come off of the little beef credit thing. They need to let this go.
[00:37:17] Speaker C: Do we know how it got back, rejuvenated this time, though?
[00:37:22] Speaker B: I don't think it ever ended.
I think people was just lying and, you know, just waiting, because I think the. This. The track that he recorded, he had been. Had it, and he was just, like, holding it. Wait, like. Yeah, like, it was just like, nah, I'ma say this, so I want to say.
[00:37:43] Speaker A: I want to say it got drummed up recently. Was it all star weekend? They were sitting courtside next to each other.
[00:37:50] Speaker B: No, no, it was that fashion thing where he ain't want to mess up his bag. Oh.
[00:37:56] Speaker A: Somebody was being messy. Sat them next to each other. The Internet, Twitter, whatever. X, whatever you want to call it, black Twitter. Somebody brought up that they had beef, and I think it kind of just, you know, spurred up again, because I think Chris put out a tweet or Instagram posting. Nah, don't get it twisted. Like, it's still beef. It was something along.
[00:38:21] Speaker C: Yeah, I remember that.
[00:38:24] Speaker B: Yeah. He was like, no, I just didn't want to mess up my money. I was like, all right, well, at least we're getting smarter about, you know, how you engage with the people.
[00:38:33] Speaker C: I saw. Yes, mature. I saw that.
First of all, that that track was fire. Okay? The brown stand for Chris Brown. The brown is not to be with. Okay. And all around artists, I was like, oh, not y'all waking up. The true artist. And Christopher love it. I love to see it.
[00:39:01] Speaker A: Now I'm thinking about how they was sitting courtside next to each other. I know them.
[00:39:09] Speaker C: Particularly the brown, but.
[00:39:10] Speaker A: I know it was mad.
[00:39:12] Speaker C: You know, it's a bunch of rap beef going on. I saw somebody that was like, chris Brown is the only person that I feel like will run up on you and swing for real.
[00:39:21] Speaker B: Hello.
[00:39:23] Speaker C: Out of all these. And I was like, you know what? You right. Because Chris Brown, I feel like this will swing on anybody.
[00:39:30] Speaker B: He about that life.
[00:39:32] Speaker A: Hey, you remember him, uh, trying to hit Drake upside the head with the champagne bottle some years ago?
[00:39:39] Speaker B: Wait, what?
[00:39:41] Speaker A: Yeah, they got the brawling in some club. They. Breezy was throwing champagne bottles.
[00:39:49] Speaker C: Bruh.
[00:39:50] Speaker A: This can't be something only I know now. This is like. It's gotta be, like, probably around that same time maybe older than that. Clearly before it was, it was before they pieced it up and made, um, was that song, that fire song? I can't remember, but yeah, before they pieced it up.
[00:40:10] Speaker C: Chris Brown don't have light skin energy.
I feel like it's giving dark skin energy all day.
[00:40:17] Speaker B: Yeah, they had did a thing on it. Like he's definitely, I was just energy. Yeah, yeah, he's dead.
[00:40:28] Speaker C: He do.
[00:40:30] Speaker B: He's definitely great.
[00:40:34] Speaker A: What's up? Drake is getting Kendrick the out of here.
[00:40:39] Speaker C: Okay.
Give us a timeline of. Give us a quick summary of the Drake Cole Kendrick beef.
[00:40:49] Speaker A: Um, quick summary. Okay. They both pretty much came out around the same era in music.
Maybe 2009 to 2010 ish, eleven ish. They've always had, like, you know, gentlemen's competition and beef throughout their 15 years or whatever. They open the big three of rap or whatever.
This particular recent beef started on Future Metro's album we don't trust you.
Was it. I don't remember which track number it was, but it was a song called like that future who also has beef with Drake and Metro has beef with Drake. They allowed Kendrick to have a verse. The final verse on the like that song isn't. Drake instantly went well. Drake and Cole instantly went to number one. Was number one for about four weeks. Now.
[00:41:42] Speaker C: Why they did cold.
Wait, go ahead. Go ahead with the time.
[00:41:45] Speaker A: No, it was Kendrick saying, there is no big three is just big mean. So he's responding in he. That was in response to Drake and Ken Drake and Cole song first person shooter, which was number one.
That was off Drake's last album. I forgot what it, which was all the dog. For all the dogs. I think that's what it was. Um, so he's like saying, oh, there is no big. Big three is just big me. And then obviously that spurred up the, the beef. You know what I'm saying?
[00:42:14] Speaker B: That was though, like, really? But go ahead.
[00:42:18] Speaker A: Sorry, that was for what?
[00:42:21] Speaker C: Go ahead, research team.
[00:42:23] Speaker B: I said, I feel like that would stir up any beef. Like you just like, if anyone said that. But go ahead.
[00:42:29] Speaker C: But why did Drake and Cole diss him in the first place?
[00:42:34] Speaker A: Kendrick dissed them first.
[00:42:37] Speaker B: Unprovoked.
[00:42:39] Speaker C: Unprovoked?
[00:42:40] Speaker A: Yeah. First person shooter was just a song that they had together.
[00:42:43] Speaker B: Oh, okay. We got you.
[00:42:48] Speaker A: Yeah. So. So J Cole got out his body, you know, and made a diss towards Kendrick. He was the first. Basically he sacrificial lamb himself for no reason. Because three days later, after the song, was it seven minute drill on his last mixtape flash album, he came back and apologized for dissing Kendrick, which is why. How you dissing mighty. Then apologize and say you don't want no problems. Like, really.
[00:43:20] Speaker B: Wait, wait, he said sorry?
[00:43:24] Speaker A: Yeah, his Dreamville festival. He got on stage and said sorry. Like, I didn't really want to do that. I've been losing sleep. Da da da da da oh, tupac and biggie rolling over in a gray boy. Why?
[00:43:39] Speaker C: Right?
Why would you. This a rap beef. Why would you apologize?
[00:43:46] Speaker A: This is a rap beef. If you truly believe you're the best rapper, say that this and say, whatever. Who cares? Like, but that was, now that's some light skin energy. No, that's like, you know, you throw. You throw in hide your hand. Nah, don't do.
[00:44:04] Speaker C: That was cold. This good?
[00:44:08] Speaker A: It was pretty good. It was like, it was like, lukewarm. It wasn't like, it wasn't like super disrespectful or nothing like that. It was, it was cool. He was rapping good, but the minute he apologizes, it becomes trash.
[00:44:23] Speaker C: Yeah, that I feel like, well, I got another question.
Why did Kendrick just come out of nowhere and like, yeah, it's just me.
[00:44:36] Speaker A: They've always, well, the three of them have all, well, mainly Drake and Kendrick. They've always thrown like, little shots here and there on albums or songs, but you would have to read between the lines in order to know who they talking about. And it's never definitive, you know what I'm saying? So I'm guessing he hears Cole and Drake on the song is like, man. Because everybody always say they're pretty much the three biggest rappers for the most part, just consistently wise, I'd say. Other rappers obviously have had their little dance of whatever, but they've been here for the last 15 years for us consistently.
So he sees the two of them do a song and he's like, oh, no, no, it ain't no big three is just, it's just me. I'm the best or whatever. And then that was it.
[00:45:28] Speaker C: Now you are our resident Drake fan dub.
[00:45:33] Speaker A: I am biased resident beef analyst. Yes.
[00:45:37] Speaker C: So you feel like Drake killing everybody.
[00:45:41] Speaker A: Uh, Drake did put out a disk, basically addressing everybody. Future Metro, Ross Kendrick even discolored slightly. Um, he dis John Moran, who is a basketball player. That's wild. So basically anybody could have got it on that song, which was on who's that song called anyway? I forgot the name of the first diss, but yeah, he was biting everybody. Kendrick has not responded yet. Drake released another song where he was rapping as Tupac and snoop dissing Kendrick some more. Kendrick still ain't said nothing. And it's been, it's been weeks now.
I think he getting Kendrick out of here, and there are some more deep dives in this whole beef, but we don't have to go into that right now. There's still some things are waiting to be seen.
[00:46:35] Speaker B: What he said about Ross and what Ross said in response.
[00:46:41] Speaker A: Ross had, I guess, unfollowed Drake some weeks ago or who know, who knows how long ago, because supposedly Drake sent a cease and desist to French Montana for some song or something that he didn't want coming out or whatever that Drake was on, but he didn't want. He didn't want to be on the song anymore or whatever. It was. Something along those lines. The Drake and Ross beef is actually funny because it's. It's more of them. Well, they've had off and on beef, like, for a long time. They'll beef, then they'll make up, then they'll beef, then they'll make up, then they'll beef in the makeup. And whenever they make up, they make these amazing songs together, which is crazy. So they secretly like each other, so their beef isn't that serious. Their beef is funny because it's more about trolling each other, like they talking about each other's jets and who got more money. It's really hilarious.
So Ross was on, was on instagram saying, drake got a 1978 plane that he got for free, then people gave it to you, blah, blah, blah, blah. Drake came back and said, you got that timeshare jet with a rap on it. So whenever it's the mother people's turn, you got to take your rap off the plane like it was. They are really being funny about it.
[00:47:59] Speaker C: I feel like, as a Kendrick Drake Cole fan and someone who has seen all three in concert, I feel like Kendrick is the better artist overall lyrically. I don't know.
I feel like. I feel like people underestimate Drake lyrically, but I don't know if I'm prepared to say he's the best lyricist out of all three.
[00:48:35] Speaker A: I think over Kendrick is definitely.
I don't know. People say that he's the best lyricist. Not in my opinion. Why? Just because he's saying something that makes you think real hard to understand it doesn't mean that it's dope. But Drake has this way of saying, of being lyrical and making it easy to digest and sound good. You know what I'm saying? So I think he's. I think he's the best to me, and that's my opinion. But Cole also has an argument.
Yeah, it's whatever your taste is. I think Drake overall is. Is the biggest and best.
[00:49:16] Speaker C: I like him in rap beefs. I still back to back, still one of my favorite.
[00:49:21] Speaker A: Drake don't smoke, and he makes rap. He makes beef songs sound good.
[00:49:27] Speaker C: He does. And that is important. And I think that gets lost sometimes. And when we're talking about good rappers, like great rappers, sometimes I feel like people underestimate the ability to make a good song in addition to being a good lyricist, you know, I'm Sam, so I agree. I don't know about the AI part.
I feel like I'm sort of a music purist, so I will. I'm a bit biased, and I'm in a weird space with AI, personally. I feel like people kind of overusing it, and sometimes it's like, yes, I could use AI for this, but should I? And is it really enhancing the product or am I just using AI just to use it? And I think Drake using AI took away from it the musicality of it all for me, a bit.
[00:50:30] Speaker A: I personally thought the AI was really creative to obviously their Drake lyrics because they're rapping like Drake, but it's Tupac's voice and Snoop's voice.
I thought that was pretty dope that that snoop. That snoop verse will snoop AI verse that Drake spit with Snoop's voice. He was getting on that first, like, nap. And I ain't gonna lie, I thought it was pretty creative.
I heard supposedly Tupac's estate is trying to sue Drake, but they won't get it done because there are no rules for AI yet, so.
[00:51:10] Speaker C: And that is why I've been trying to tell people AI has far surpassed when it should have been regulated. And I feel like I am excited a bit as a technologist, just to see all the different ways people can use AI, because it's just a free for all. So I like it from that perspective. But musically, I'm like, I don't know. And speaking of Tupac, I feel like the best disrecker record of all time is still. Hit him up. Okay. Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody touching that for me personally.
Okay.
First off in the click, you claim you're gonna have to edit a lot of stuff on this.
[00:51:58] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
He ain't here to keep us in check, but, yeah, I got it. I got it.
[00:52:05] Speaker C: I can't be trusted alone he came.
[00:52:09] Speaker B: Out hard with that. Okay.
[00:52:12] Speaker C: And that goes to what we were talking about. Dub it's also a good song. Like, you can just ride to it.
[00:52:19] Speaker A: Right? Right.
[00:52:24] Speaker B: I'm excited to see where, like, AI goes as well, but I don't want it to. To take away from, like, the organicness or try to replace, like, the human, like, connection that sometimes technology can play. Like, it's like, yeah, you have all these great things. The coding's great, but there's something intuitive about humans that can't be put into technology. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just.
[00:52:55] Speaker A: I think this Drake thing is okay because the lyrics is Drake written all over it. So Drake wrote it and performed it. He just put a different voice on it. So I think that's okay, because in there, you can still hear Drake's musicality and the way he flows and the way he raps and way he puts words together is just another voice.
[00:53:21] Speaker C: I see what you're saying.
Well, I hope more is to come, and I hope Kendrick responds, so we'll see.
[00:53:30] Speaker A: According to Drake, Kendrick can't release none without Taylor Swift. So you don't see. Oh, yes. It's a very deep, dark thing going on in this music thing right now. It's crazy.
A boy Bryson Tiller put out a great album. I did give it one listen.
Oh, yeah, he. Yeah, he back.
[00:53:55] Speaker B: Okay, I'm a listen.
[00:53:56] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm gonna have to get out of listen.
[00:53:58] Speaker A: Y'all remember when he came out? Was that, like, 2012 ish 13 is probably.
[00:54:03] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:54:03] Speaker A: He had, like, his own little vibe. It was different r and b style. Yeah, found another. He don't found another gear. He back. So I think he back in his bag.
[00:54:17] Speaker C: I was thinking about him the other day, and I was like, you know, I remember when he came out, and I did not think that he would still be around this much this long later. So I'm gonna give it a listen, cuz he doing something good over there.
Shall we shift to r and b for a second?
Talk about future in metro album.
[00:54:43] Speaker A: It was a tidbit in the Drake beast, so we don't have to cover it. But they put out. They did put out two albums, we don't trust you. And then a week later, they put out, we still don't trust you. And now they're going on tour with the we trust you.
[00:54:59] Speaker C: Did you like.
Did you like both of them? One or the other?
[00:55:04] Speaker A: I only heard the first one. It was cool. It was cool.
[00:55:10] Speaker C: I'm listening to it because I heard mixed reviews, but I didn't even realize they put out a second one, so let me give it a listen. I'm gonna give both of them a listen.
Um, shifting to r and b.
[00:55:24] Speaker B: Okay. Okay.
[00:55:28] Speaker C: What you got for us?
[00:55:31] Speaker B: Well, you know, I feel like y'all are the more of the, like, the r and b hit. I mean, the hip hop heads, and I'm more of, like, adjacent to the hip hop, but I'm really, you know, r and b lover of all, you know, things that talk about love.
I just wanted to kind of get y'all's opinions on a few things, but I know we didn't go over this when it. When it came to music, but these. These ladies are considered, like, r and B artists.
Quick question. Alicia Keys, Sierra, and Ashanti, what do they all have in common? Go.
[00:56:19] Speaker C: They all fine.
[00:56:21] Speaker A: Put the words right on mouth. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
[00:56:25] Speaker C: I know that's what you wasn't going for, but, hey, did y'all look at it?
[00:56:30] Speaker B: That's not.
[00:56:33] Speaker C: What.
[00:56:33] Speaker B: It's not lighter.
[00:56:36] Speaker A: Huge. We gonna make you say research team.
[00:56:40] Speaker C: We are. We are.
[00:56:44] Speaker B: Just, you know, of course, this is my opinion, but I think all of these ladies have really great song choice. However, vocally, they're not there. And that's okay. I'm not saying, like, that's a bad thing, but I think because they have their particular song choice, and, you know, they stay within their range, it works for them. But I don't think they're your singer's favorite singer singer. You know, I'm saying they're not like a. A brandy or, you know, even like a Beyonce or.
[00:57:26] Speaker C: I agree. And I would say that Sierra understands that. But the other two, not so sure if they know.
Yeah.
[00:57:38] Speaker B: Like, sierra is really good at staying in her. In her lane and making sure the song fits her range, but I think.
[00:57:47] Speaker C: And I don't know how true this is, but just as somebody from Atlanta, and I remember when Sierra came out, sierra wanted to dance, but back then, it was easier to sing, you know, and be. And make it as a singer than a dancer. And I remember they kind of, like, made her into an artist.
She went to North Atlanta or Tri city. One of them performed forming art schools. And back then, it was hard to be just a dancer, you know what I'm saying? And so I remember them kind of molding her into this Atlanta singer, but we all really knew that she was a dancer.
[00:58:26] Speaker B: That was her. Okay.
[00:58:27] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:58:28] Speaker C: That's why she knows how to stay in her lane. Ashanti girl, I don't know if this came up because of that clip. Research team. I just. I thought Ashanti knew that about Whitney.
[00:58:40] Speaker B: Houston, where she was trying to sing the Whitney Houston song. You talking about that clip?
[00:58:46] Speaker C: Okay.
Why?
I thought Ashanti knew to stay in her lane as well.
Why?
[00:59:02] Speaker B: What makes me, like, really, like, bummed out about, like, the Ashanti thing is that her sister can really sing. Like, her sister's voice is bomb. And I'm like, how we. What happened?
Yeah, yeah. Her sister can really sing, and I don't, I don't understand how.
How she missed out on the Internet.
[00:59:30] Speaker C: Fine as a shanti, because one.
[00:59:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. That's, that's, that's the answer right there. That's the answer.
[00:59:37] Speaker C: And remember, look, in the early two thousands, and that was when all the rap boys had one fine girl in the group. You know what I'm saying?
So that's probably what happened. But is the sister fine? I ain't seen her. What? You can.
[00:59:55] Speaker B: I don't know, but I know she's, like, a younger sister, so she may have not even been old enough to be, like, really serious about it because I think Ashanti is older and that's her younger sister.
[01:00:09] Speaker A: My little two cent.
[01:00:11] Speaker B: Go ahead, go ahead.
[01:00:13] Speaker A: I don't know if I'll put Alicia Keys in here. I think she's kind of in a different category. Yeah, I think she.
What it is with Alicia Keys, she has a very specific tone and probably reigns that she's supposed to be in, but I think her.
Her sellability or her. She's. I was. I would consider her an international star. So she gets a lot of placements on these award shows and national anthems and stuff like that, which is probably not what she should be singing. So she ends up straining and cracking and sounding crazy, but I don't think she's out of, you know, I think she sings pretty well. I think her, her obviously, her tone and the raspiness of her voice is what makes her voice nice. And it just doesn't lend to when she's singing, like, all these big songs on award shows and all this stuff. Now, these other two, they can't really sing. I'm just moving. Just, like, to be in the class all by.
[01:01:19] Speaker C: I was thinking about that.
I do feel like Alicia Keys has a voice and she's an artist and she can sing, but it doesn't translate that well live sometimes, and I will be. Some of these artists don't be. Don't be really practicing and working on their vocals like they should.
Like, sometimes it's given that Alicia keys just becoming out there. No one piano, no warm up, none of that.
And I've seen, you know, I have artists in my life, so I've seen singers, like, really do the most. And if when they. And people who can really sing, if they don't do, you know, their warm ups and stuff, they'll be sounding good.
So I think that's. I agree, dub. I do think she kind of in another. But if we talk about live singing.
[01:02:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I was talking about singing in general, but definitely not live for Alicia. Like, she sounds like. But I may. And maybe that's the thing. Maybe I'm biased because I prefer, like, live music versus.
You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, I'd be out there at the concerts like, no, no vocals, like Mike on type. Type life. But she's not.
[01:02:47] Speaker C: It's not giving witness.
[01:02:49] Speaker B: Yeah. She's just.
You were disappointing at the Super bowl, ma'am. You had one job and you sound like, what?
[01:02:59] Speaker C: Yeah, I was kind of shocked that. But, you know, people get nervous, too.
You're right.
[01:03:04] Speaker B: There's. But the expectation is that because you're an artist and you do this, you need to stay, like, super in your pocket or in your, like, comfort, whatever. Like, you know, no matter what, I'm always hit this note. Whatever that space is, stay there for this.
[01:03:24] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? Let's don't.
[01:03:26] Speaker B: Don't pick Super bowl to try something new out your range, girl.
[01:03:32] Speaker C: You right.
Side note, Ashanti sister is not as fine as she is.
[01:03:39] Speaker A: I didn't want to say it, but thank you.
[01:03:42] Speaker B: I want to say either, but. Oh, well, now we know why.
[01:03:46] Speaker C: That's exactly why. Speaking of Super bowl, shall we shift to sports?
[01:03:55] Speaker B: Let's do it.
[01:03:56] Speaker A: Yeah, let's talk about sports. So right now, we're in the thick of the first round of the NBA playoffs. Uh, my Miami Heat are in there. We probably don't, but at least we made. We made it into, um, Quinn's hawks, uh, the end. Um.
[01:04:24] Speaker C: You didn't have to. I was gonna skip right on over that. You didn't even have to bring us up. Okay.
[01:04:32] Speaker A: Y'All. Y'all. Y'all had a good one. Yeah.
[01:04:35] Speaker C: Did we?
[01:04:40] Speaker A: Honestly, once. Once the Heat are out and LeBron's out, because LeBron's on the way out as well. They are down three one to the Denver nuggets. I will probably not be watching the playoffs anymore until the final series because I don't care about what happens in between.
[01:05:01] Speaker C: Shout out to the Hawks for losing to the Bulls. And being eliminated.
But you know, shout out, shout out to the Hawks.
[01:05:10] Speaker A: You gotta, they got some good players over there. Um, what's his name? De Johnte Murray. He turned up this year when Trey Young got hurt. And the other young kid, Jalen Johnson, he gonna be a monster. So the Hawk Hawks got a decent little future if they stay with the court that they have.
[01:05:29] Speaker C: If.
But you know how Atlanta sports do.
We, I just, I gave up hope, you know, after 23, 28 and three.
I just, you know, it is what it is.
[01:05:49] Speaker B: People still be supporting.
[01:05:51] Speaker A: That's because they going to the game for sure.
[01:05:54] Speaker B: It's fun.
[01:05:55] Speaker C: We going to the game, you know what I'm saying? We gonna, we gonna go have us a drink and have a good time. But we begin our hopes up and then they do the Atlanta, and we'd be like that. And then the next season we'd be right back.
But speaking of 28 and three, why.
[01:06:23] Speaker A: For our viewers, listeners, we did have the NTFL NFL draft this weekend.
The Falcons did have pick number eight. I was actually in the building, Mercedes Benz stadium at the draft party as a Dolphins fan. I was dolphin down amongst a bunch of falcons. And it was great because y'all pick at number eight was none other than Michael Pennix junior from Washington.
He is a starting quarterback.
While I say, y'all, this is an unbiased podcast anyway, he is a starting quarterback in Atlanta. Just paid a starting quarterback $200 million.
[01:07:12] Speaker B: Geez, when, what's the rationale? What's the strategy?
[01:07:18] Speaker C: Let's just have a moment of silence.
[01:07:22] Speaker A: So amongst probably four to 5000 Atlanta Hawks fans, because it was for Atlanta Hawks members only, all you could hear in the crowd was what?
Like it was, it was wild in there and everybody was shocked. It was pretty crazy.
[01:07:41] Speaker C: Why?
I mean, maybe you could you tell me, dub, please, as a sports fan, please tell me why. Tell me the rationale. Because I saw one Falcons fan who is my friend from high school, like y'all stupid. This was a great decision on the Falcons part and I just can't, I.
[01:08:05] Speaker A: Don'T see any just trying to justify, I think I do have a small angle of what it could be.
I think they could have originally wanted to get Pennix junior from the beginning, before they even signed Kirk Cousins in the first place. But I don't think that they could have had black head coach and a black quarterback simultaneously.
So they sign a white quarterback for a lot of money, have the black kid back him up for now and then he'll probably start in a year or two. I think that's what's going on.
It's a lot to think about. I know, I know, I know. But the Falcons fans, they were expecting to get a detachable, I think, and ended up getting a quarterback, which they didn't need. So definitely, uh, definitely something going on there, but, I mean, hopefully the logic pans out.
[01:09:12] Speaker C: I gave up on that organization after 28 three.
Like, I really used to put my heart and soul into the Falcon city. Everybody that knows me knows that. And I really hadn't take a step back, y'all, because it was causing me unnecessary stress.
And I have felt a lot more at peace ever since I released them from my aura. Okay. And I thought, I thought I was doing better. I didn't even watch the drafts. I was like, this up. I'm sorry, dub. You really gonna have to edit this one. I ain't even watch it. Soon as I get. Went to Twitter, all my friends, wTF?
What the Falcons done did now?
Why?
[01:10:01] Speaker A: What the Falcons. Look at that.
Look at that.
[01:10:06] Speaker C: What? In the 28 and three, I was still mad. I thought I had released them from my system, y'all. And I was still, still mad. So shout out to the Falcons, who gonna break my heart for the end of time and maybe I can become a Dolphins fan. Who did y'all get?
[01:10:25] Speaker A: We welcome, everybody. I actually don't know who the Dolphins took in the first round. I was there for the 21st pick, was not paying attention because the dolphins weren't dying for anybody that we needed specifically. Our team is pretty good, which is why our picks were so late. Um, we did need some or want some big uglies. I think we got a tackle or a defensive tackle in the first round, but we gonna, we gonna be straight.
We're not banking on who we picked up in the draft, so dolphins will be all right. Don't have much to say about the dolphins right now.
Go fans. That's it.
[01:11:02] Speaker C: How was the party?
[01:11:05] Speaker A: I had a blast.
It was really fun. I'm gonna try to go again next year if I could, um, get some tickets. Somehow not being a, not being a member or whatever, I just looked up on some tickets this year.
[01:11:21] Speaker C: Oh, I was gonna ask you how you got them tickets. I saw your story. I was like, oh, that looks fun.
[01:11:27] Speaker A: It was very fun. Oh, and also, by the way, uh, I really wish state farm arena would, would adhere to Mercedes Benz stadium concession stand prices because mbs, they got decent prices, like five, $6 for stuff, you know what I'm saying?
[01:11:51] Speaker C: For so ridiculous.
[01:11:53] Speaker A: State farm is crazy. Like, what y'all got going on over there?
[01:11:59] Speaker B: Have I been to State farm? Twin?
[01:12:01] Speaker A: Um, yes, for the most of concerts at state Farm.
[01:12:05] Speaker B: Oh, is that the one where we was like. They was like, you can't have. You gotta have a special cups.
[01:12:10] Speaker C: Yeah, they've been tripping.
[01:12:12] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Oh, we only accept cards and not cash them.
[01:12:15] Speaker A: No, them saying, folks, they farm, like $12 for popcorn, like $16 for burgers and hot dog. What is going on? Mbs? $7 for hot dog and fries, total.
[01:12:30] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:12:31] Speaker A: $6. Burger and fries. Crazy.
[01:12:35] Speaker C: I think they got a junior crickets and state farm. Shout out to junior crickets. Best wings ever. Why is a ten piece and fries like $25?
State farm. Get it together. What we need to do. Petition. I agree. That's why I used to go to the Falcons games. I used to go to Falcons games all the time. Hawks game. I went to, like, two Hawks games. And every, every time it's time to go, I'm like, almost spend $200 at the Hulk game.
[01:13:09] Speaker A: Crazy. You know, I don't know what it. But I do remember, um, shout out to Arthur Blank for this. But when he, when he was building a new stadium, he said that he wanted to keep concession prices affordable. I think even before COVID stuff was like $2, $3.
Shout out to him for that. I mean, he. He cool for that. He cool for that.
[01:13:35] Speaker C: I agree.
[01:13:35] Speaker B: Because it's not like you get in more.
[01:13:39] Speaker C: Exactly. You're in your not.
[01:13:45] Speaker A: I mean, you. You having affordable prices in the stadium is going to make people want to come to the games.
[01:13:53] Speaker B: Exactly.
[01:13:54] Speaker C: They probably have to do that for the Falcons, though, because the Falcons be pissing us off. So we got to have one reason somehow. Yeah. You got to keep people in the building.
Well, shall we switch to three LWB?
What's the. What's the old WB frog? What he used to do? Y'all don't y'all remember?
[01:14:23] Speaker A: He used to dance around in coon with that battle.
[01:14:28] Speaker B: I didn't want to say that, but.
[01:14:29] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what he was doing, if you really think about it. They tried us.
[01:14:34] Speaker B: It's literally what I thought came to mind.
[01:14:37] Speaker C: I need to change the name of the segment. Right now.
[01:14:40] Speaker B: I'm just like, let's just leave that to black.
[01:14:43] Speaker C: I don't like that part this week. Research team.
Well, you know, we'll, we'll work on.
[01:14:51] Speaker B: The title for the future, but it looks like. I don't know if y'all heard Brian McKnight's new antique, so Brian McKnight, if y'all don't know, he's. He's a former singer. I don't know what he's doing with his life for real these days, but he was pretty previously married and had children. Then he got remarried and had another set of kids or some. For some reason, Brian McKnight is the.
I have to say, allegedly. But the worst of the worst when it comes to fatherhood, parents loving children. I just.
I don't understand. So he basically has disowned his previous kids from his first marriage and has just been, like, you know, basically saying, like, his new set of kids are the only kids he gonna acknowledge. Like, and this is not even being extreme. These words have, like, come out of his mouth. So my.
My notes.
What did you say?
[01:16:08] Speaker C: Didn't he change his name?
[01:16:11] Speaker B: Um, I think one of the kids had changed their names.
[01:16:16] Speaker A: Didn't Brian say his first set of kids were created out of sin?
[01:16:21] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:16:22] Speaker C: Is that what he said?
[01:16:24] Speaker B: Yeah. This man is trolling his own kids.
I ain't never.
I don't understand.
[01:16:33] Speaker A: That's wild. That's really wild.
[01:16:36] Speaker B: What he is going through as, like, I don't know if this is, like, a cry for men to help, like, a mental, like, issue he's having, but.
[01:16:45] Speaker C: I heard somebody say he changed his name, Brian. His name, so that his new son could.
[01:16:56] Speaker B: See, see, see, this is crazy.
[01:17:01] Speaker A: Because one of his oldest sons, Brian McKnight Junior.
[01:17:06] Speaker B: Yeah, that sounds.
[01:17:09] Speaker C: Yeah, mental illness.
[01:17:11] Speaker B: I just, like, from a.
I put in the. In the notes, like, every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child. And I think this is one of those. Those rare cases.
My. My concern ultimately is the example he is setting for his second set of kids, because it's not like the Internet deletes this stuff. And to the lady that he's married to now, ma'am, why are you still there?
Like, do you really want to be in a relationship with somebody who treats their previous set of kids like this?
[01:17:49] Speaker C: What?
[01:17:49] Speaker A: He going because he doing all this for her? That's why she did, correct.
[01:17:55] Speaker B: Oh, no, they both.
[01:17:56] Speaker C: Well, so he doing this because the first set of family was. Was out of wedlock.
[01:18:05] Speaker B: It didn't work out well. Correct. But he had been removed from them. Like, this lady is not.
[01:18:13] Speaker C: So he just never gonna speak to his previous kids ever again.
[01:18:18] Speaker B: The relationship is severed. It is. It is gone. They.
[01:18:24] Speaker C: Yeah, no, I see with that oldest son.
[01:18:32] Speaker A: It'S.
[01:18:32] Speaker B: It's really given, like, that, um, monique and her. Her first son energy.
[01:18:39] Speaker C: Oh, it was given that, because I was reading about both of those, I think within the same day, it's too much. It was giving that, um.
And as somebody who doesn't want kids, I don't understand how you can just abandon somebody that came from you. Like, you voluntarily brought people into the world. They weren't gonna be here if it wasn't for you.
[01:19:10] Speaker B: Hello. You made the choice, not them.
[01:19:14] Speaker C: So.
And I. I'm not a parent, so make dub. You know, you have more experience in parenting, but I. When I see stuff like this, I personally feel like it's on the parent to make things right with the child unless there is some egregious circumstances. You know what I'm saying? Maybe. Maybe the parent felt like they gave all that they can. They tried everything.
But when there's a broken parent child relationship to me, I feel like the parents should do everything in their power to fix that.
[01:19:54] Speaker A: I don't think he cares or wants to repair anything. He just don't want nothing to do.
[01:19:59] Speaker B: With him, which is crazy.
[01:20:03] Speaker C: Well, that sucks.
[01:20:05] Speaker B: That's just like, you know, I think he has three. Three kids, like, older kids. And to me, I'm just like, I don't. But I don't understand.
Like, the dynamics that you're building between those siblings is wild, and they're also, like, you're just a bad human. Like, you're literally just a bad human.
[01:20:27] Speaker C: A lot of people are unwell.
People are unwell. And the fact that that lady is still there and she finds nothing egregious about this situation, she unwell, too.
And, you know, they deserve each other. He probably end up abandoning these kids as soon as they don't work out too. So I feel like there's a group of men who only want their kids as long as it's working out with the mother.
And that's gross and sickening to me, but I think there is a subset of men out there like that, and he sound like one of them. I would not be surprised if he, this don't work out, and he changed his name again and have another boy and try again.
[01:21:12] Speaker B: No, just don't. Just. Just stop.
Like, no more kids need to come out of your saxer.
Speaking of people.
Correct. Everybody just need to just.
Sterile, sterile, sterile.
Speaking of, like, sacks, I don't know if y'all saw this, this story or this, you know, continuously unfolding story between Jeezy and his soon to be alleged ex wife Jeannie Mai, where he is now seeking city of their child that they have together.
[01:21:54] Speaker A: I have been following to the extent that I can, yes.
[01:21:58] Speaker C: Oh, I'm shocked.
[01:22:00] Speaker B: Okay, I was about to say, what are y'all's thoughts on that?
Not the divorce, but the jeezy seeking soul custody. Like he want to be the primary parent.
[01:22:13] Speaker C: Oh, I think he delusional.
Well, go ahead. Go ahead.
[01:22:19] Speaker A: I mean, I get it. Because if she has the child and he got to pay child support, I understand why he's trying to do that.
[01:22:30] Speaker B: He don't want to pay all that for not to not pay child support.
Oh, my God.
[01:22:35] Speaker A: Yes. It'd be easier to hire a live in nanny and pay child support.
[01:22:44] Speaker B: Oh, this is. I ain't even think about it like that. That's crazy. Twin, what's your thought? What's your take?
[01:22:53] Speaker C: I think he delusional if he think he finna get sole custody from an asian lady in America, given his background and the current allegations against him, and I think he just being vindictive. I don't think he wants all custody of that child, and I think it is not to pay child support because he know they come in for them pockets.
[01:23:20] Speaker A: What allegations are you talking about? You talking about the weapons, though?
[01:23:25] Speaker C: The weapons and the abuse allegations against Genie.
[01:23:31] Speaker A: Did you see the. Did you see the weapon? The pictures of the weapons?
[01:23:35] Speaker C: I saw. That.
[01:23:39] Speaker A: Didn'T look contrived or planted to you.
[01:23:42] Speaker C: I saw. The only one I saw was the one of him, um, walking around the house with the weapon. Well, allegedly him walking around the house with the weapon. I didn't see the one with the children.
[01:23:56] Speaker A: I didn't see any pictures with the children. I saw him walking through the house with the weapon. I checked the timestamp. It was like 08:00 p.m. Like he could have just been moving it from the vehicle or whatever to the people who. He could have just came from the gun range. And the other ones, like the one laying on the floor next to the bed and the two laying on the bed like that didn't look weird to you?
[01:24:21] Speaker C: I don't know. I don't. I'm not saying that I feel like any of the allegations against him are true. I have no idea.
I'm saying that I think he's deluding himself in thinking that the system would give him soul custody as opposed to believing this little asian lady accusing an ex drug dealer and violent, known violent person of abuse and having guns around a child, even if it's not true, I see the system believing it, and I don't know if I don't believe the abuse allegations, but you know how I feel about that.
[01:25:06] Speaker A: I'm a little bit biased, so I think the weapon. I'm just really focused on the weapon thing right now, because if those are fake or contrived, and who knows what's. What's real or not, that's true.
[01:25:25] Speaker C: I don't know. I don't know how I feel about the pit, the weapons picture, and the allegations.
I feel like if they are. If those pictures are real, how long was they married?
[01:25:44] Speaker A: Three years, I think.
[01:25:46] Speaker C: It wasn't that long.
[01:25:47] Speaker B: It was less than five.
[01:25:51] Speaker C: I mean, you knew who you was marrying.
I feel like acting shocked. Even if it's. Even if it. If it is true, I feel like acting shocked. That got a whole bunch of guns around your child is kind of crazy, but.
Right. You knew that for three years?
[01:26:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:26:16] Speaker C: Oh, let's just stop that part. But it could be fake, too.
What you. What you finna say, research team?
[01:26:25] Speaker B: I was just gonna say just in totality. I think it's crazy that he is seeking soul custody. Um, and, like, the reasoning behind that he gave was that basically, she is working a lot, and she travels, and basically, the child is left with them, Jeannie's mama and Jeannie's brother, primarily not with her.
[01:26:49] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I can understand that.
[01:26:52] Speaker B: So what do you think.
[01:26:55] Speaker C: He said?
[01:26:56] Speaker B: She's basically not left with Jeannie all the time. She's primarily left with, like, relatives.
[01:27:02] Speaker A: I think that was an issue in their. Their marriage was that she moved her family into the home, so.
[01:27:08] Speaker B: Correct.
[01:27:09] Speaker A: I think he has an issue with whoever, her family or the type of people that they are, so. But, yeah, that could. That could be a real genuine concern for him.
[01:27:22] Speaker B: Right. But according to.
To Jeannie, my. In previous, like, when they were, like, dating, when they first got married, they were just so aligned on so many things in, like, family and how they view things, and I'm just like, where did.
No. She said this one. She was, like, doing an interview about, like, dating him and stuff.
[01:27:45] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. Straight from the publicist, somebody she's, um, meet. She's media trained. Basically. They wanted her to say that.
[01:27:57] Speaker C: I mean, she's definitely media trained.
[01:28:00] Speaker B: I mean, yeah, but it's just like, you saying all these things that were just exceptionally great, and he's saying all these things that just are exceptionally great. Meanwhile, the black community is still scratching their head. Like, how did that even come about? But you know what else?
[01:28:18] Speaker C: I mean. But frankly, I don't feel bad for either one of them, because Jeezy would Jeezy say. Jeezy said that about black women.
[01:28:27] Speaker A: And Jeannie said she liked to drink Jesus. Oh.
[01:28:36] Speaker C: And Jeannie like her dark meat on the side, so they deserve each other. And I honestly don't care what comes out of this situation. It don't sound like a great situation for the child involved.
[01:28:48] Speaker B: Right. I feel bad for her.
[01:28:50] Speaker C: Hopefully it ends up well for the child and the child only, but the two of them can off for me.
[01:29:01] Speaker B: Really don't have to edit this one hard.
Well, you know, let's go ahead and transition to a couple that I don't know how y'all will feel about, but congrats goes out to Ashanti and Nelli on their engagement and their first child together.
[01:29:20] Speaker C: But I saw this video on ig of Nellie's, his concert, but it was just like, Nellie. That's it. I've only. I've seen Nellie in concert, but at festivals, so, you know, it's like a lot of different artists there. And of course, you know, why you waiting for artists. You see Nellie, so it's hype. It's always been good. But I saw a clip of him, and it was his. His concert only, and then it was empty.
[01:29:47] Speaker A: Oh.
[01:29:49] Speaker C: 2004. And me felt bad for Nellie. Shout out to Nellie. But anyway, so they engaged.
[01:29:56] Speaker A: Unrelated, but yeah, he got to read the room. He got to know, you know, what type of thing he should be performing.
[01:30:03] Speaker C: I was like, why is Nellie going on tour by himself?
You supposed to be at the festivals, Nellie, that's your bag. That's your bag.
[01:30:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:30:13] Speaker C: Okay. I'm sorry. That was a detour.
[01:30:16] Speaker B: That's okay. It's okay. But, yeah, yeah. They're getting married, and they're having their first child.
[01:30:22] Speaker A: Congratulations for them.
[01:30:25] Speaker B: To them, I think Ashanti is 42 now. 43.
42.
[01:30:33] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:30:34] Speaker B: But how do you guys feel about them spinning the block decades later?
[01:30:39] Speaker C: At first, I was like, man, but it's hard out here, man. People be unwell. Dating is trash.
You know, if they didn't break up for some egregious reason, and they have both grown and matured and evolved, you know, go for it. Because people crazy out here.
[01:31:01] Speaker B: You know, who hasn't matured or who was grown? His ex.
Miss. I think her last name is Jackson. She was.
I know. Any, you know, breakups are difficult, but when they're on this magnitude and it's kind of like, in your face that the person you were dating for, I don't know, ten plus years, never married you. Y'all never had kids, and now y'all broken up, and within, like, two, three years, he marrying this chick, and he got a kid with her. You know, I could see how you could be a bit salty, bitter, angry, whatever the case may be.
But I think.
[01:31:44] Speaker C: I'm not trying to victim blame, but I ain't dating nobody whose immediate ex is Ashanti.
[01:31:50] Speaker A: Wasn't he with Ashanti before her, though?
[01:31:54] Speaker B: Yeah, but she. But, but twin is saying, like, she wouldn't have, like, dated Nellie because he dated Ashanti.
[01:32:05] Speaker A: No, but I'm saying, why? Like, why is she mad if. I guess. Okay, they were together a long time. But Ashanti before you.
[01:32:15] Speaker C: Yeah, but he probably made it seem like he was over her. And I was gonna say this sometimes, and I'm, again, not victim blaming, but sometimes you gotta be able to recognize when somebody not over they ex and you are the stepping stone. And second of all, you shouldn't stay with a man past two years. If you trying to get married and he kind of on the fence, then you need to move on with your life and go figure out who you finna marry, girl. Because if you let a man, as someone who let a man play on her time for ten years, that's. Some of that is your fault, girl.
[01:32:56] Speaker B: Yeah. They worked together for seven years.
[01:32:58] Speaker C: Chantelle Jackson, you let that man play in your face. If your ex is Rihanna, I can't date you.
[01:33:05] Speaker B: I feel like it doesn't matter who the ex is. However, if we don't have a common goal, that's, like, progressing toward marriage. And if you haven't, like, I think everyone, at least in my. My point of view, I knew he wasn't gonna marry the Chantel lady. I knew he was like, you know, it's still like that, hoping and praying, because they did. It's not like Ashanti and Nellie broke up on, like you said, egregious terms. They were just going in separate, like, their career paths were, like, blowing up. So it was like, hey, we don't really have time to pour into this relationship like we should, and it's a lot of people in our relationship that shouldn't be. So, you know what?
[01:33:46] Speaker C: We gonna.
[01:33:47] Speaker B: It's not gonna work. But if, you know, the opportunity presents itself again, definitely, I'm going to run it back. And that's exactly what he was waiting for. He was like, yo, if I just hold out, I'm going to be, you know, I'm a. I'm a holder for it. Down with this one chick. I'm not going to be a complete male gigolo, because I know Ashanti not going to be with that, but I'm going to show her that, hey, I could be faithful and be committed to one person. So when that time comes, I'm sliding. I'm ten toes down.
And I think that was his plan from.
From jump.
[01:34:24] Speaker C: That's what, you know, if a man is really into you or if he. If you a placeholder for his ex.
But also, it does matter if your ex is Ashanti.
It matters. It matters to me. I can't date you.
Won't.
[01:34:51] Speaker B: I just.
[01:34:55] Speaker A: Whatever. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna leave it alone.
[01:34:57] Speaker C: No, go. What?
[01:34:59] Speaker A: No, no, no, no. I'm good.
[01:35:01] Speaker B: All right, well, you know, congrats to them.
I.
[01:35:10] Speaker C: A loving environment, and hopefully they have a sick wedding, and I want to see the pictures because both of them fine.
[01:35:19] Speaker B: Yeah. I hope they.
[01:35:23] Speaker A: They said she gonna have an apple bottom dress.
[01:35:27] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh.
[01:35:29] Speaker C: Why would you say that?
[01:35:33] Speaker A: What you mean that's his company.
Don't make her fit.
Apple bottom. A line dress.
[01:35:42] Speaker C: Hey, shoot out to Nellie, though, for real. While we laughing at apple bottoms, Nellie was really one of the first to try to make it work for us. Big booty. Okay. And I love him for that.
[01:35:56] Speaker A: No, he tried. He made it work.
[01:35:58] Speaker C: He did.
[01:36:00] Speaker A: They were huge.
[01:36:02] Speaker C: Yes. Okay. Nellie crawled so fashion Nova could fly.
Okay.
[01:36:11] Speaker A: I like that. Good one. Good one.
[01:36:13] Speaker C: Thank you, Nellie. I would still buy apple bottoms. I'd be at the city trends. If I see a pair of apple bottoms, I'm going to get some. Thank you, Nellie.
[01:36:25] Speaker B: Shots out to Nellie.
And other non related news. I don't know if y'all have heard about B. Simone's new podcast and just the drama behind that, so.
So for those of you who don't know, B. Simone had a podcast with her, really, her best friend, and it was, like, one of those really inspirational podcasts. I really focused on, like, deepening relationships you have with people and just, like, one of those, like, dive deep podcasts. Unfortunately, they had, like, what we would call, like, a friendship breakup, and it just happened to take place all over the Internet.
Her friend was Megan.
I forgot her last name, but her name is, like, Megan.
Megan Ashley.
[01:37:31] Speaker C: There we go.
[01:37:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:37:34] Speaker C: So they were.
[01:37:35] Speaker B: They were really good friends. They, you know, they've known each other for years. Megan went through, like, a divorce. She has a kid that I think is autistic, but she was still, like, pouring into the friendship and the business.
And long story short is that b. Simone, like, walked away from the friendship and the business because it just allegedly wasn't like, serving her anymore. So Megan actually went and got her own podcast, which is, like, it fits her brand. It's very good. She's very, like, in touch with her feelings. She's emotionally intelligent, she's spiritual, etc. Etc. So she really has, like, deep thought conversations and, you know, living on purpose with God and stuff like that. And B. Simone now has launched her new podcast. Let's try it again, which is, like, supposed to be about resilience and really, like, standing on what God is telling you to do. So we all know b. Simone is more of, like, a.
A comedian and content person.
That's where her bag lies. So a lot of people are on the fence or either, like, yeah, we like it, or, no, we don't because of the trailer. The trailer basically is about all these naysayers and haters coming in, and then there's a podcast, like, set, and there's a chair, like, as a. For another host to sit in, and she's like, uh, uh, uh, uh. What is this doing over here? Remove that. And then it just becomes just her. So people are saying, like, that was a bit, like, extra, like, you got it. You didn't have to, like, pull that trigger. But I've listened to both, and I enjoy both, and I just take it for how people's personalities are. Like, I think they balance each other well, but being real, like, people grow apart and people, like, lead different lives. Like, it just. It happens. There's just so happened all over the Internet, which made it worse.
[01:39:56] Speaker C: What? Why did that. Why did the friends break up?
[01:40:01] Speaker B: I think it was just like they wanted to, like, go down different paths. They really don't tell, like, in detail what happened. They just kind of was like, we're doing our own thing now.
Accept it or leave it. And it's just like, what? So people are doing a lot of speculating that, you know, b. Simone was, like, the. The mean girl of the group, whereas Megan was pouring more into the business and the friendship and really trying to, like, grow and next level it up.
[01:40:32] Speaker C: So they had the podcast together. It was them, too.
[01:40:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:40:39] Speaker C: What's the name of it? I'm gonna check it out.
[01:40:41] Speaker B: It was, um.
If you wouldn't have seen it. No, for sure.
[01:40:48] Speaker C: We don't look it up and tell me.
[01:40:50] Speaker B: No, no. That's what's called. No, for sure.
[01:40:52] Speaker C: No, for sure.
[01:40:54] Speaker B: Mm hmm. That's the name of the podcast when they. Together. No, for sure.
The. The new one is in totality for Megan's podcast. And then let's try this again for be Simone's podcast.
[01:41:11] Speaker C: Okay. So they both launched individual ones. Uh huh.
Would. So of the three, you listen to all three?
[01:41:21] Speaker B: I guess I used to. The. The one that they had together, you know, it don't run no more. Like, it's ain't no new episodes. It's over.
[01:41:30] Speaker C: You like them all equally?
[01:41:32] Speaker B: I wouldn't say I like them all equally. I think I. For me, I prefer the know for sure, because it was. It was balance. It's like you have someone who's, like, a comedian and someone who's, like, a little bit more. I won't say, like, playful and light hearted. And then Megan kind of brought, like, the seriousness or, like, the depth to the conversations a little bit more. So I appreciate the balance. Now they're just doing it, like, individually. So sometimes I don't want to be emotionally triggered like that, you know, saying, I don't want to dive that deep. So I don't always watch, like, the Megan, like, podcast. And then sometimes I, you know, if I want a little bit more light heartedness, depending on what I have going on in life, I'll watch be Simone's podcast. But I think they're equally great in their own, like, space, but I will prefer them together because of the balance.
[01:42:30] Speaker C: I feel like it always sucks when partners or a group of people produce a really good product, and then they end up not seeing eye to eye and having to go their ways. It's like, oh, I mean, I get it, but it's like, y'all couldn't work it out for the sake of the end product.
[01:42:54] Speaker B: No, I think it was taking, like, a toll on them, like, emotionally, mentally big friend groups. Because it's like, you know, when you, like, break up from someone just in general, that's a toll on the individuals, and then, like, the ripple effect are, like, people who were connected to those individuals. So it's like, now it's just, like, in mind you. Most people do this in private, so it's not dis. Amplified either.
[01:43:21] Speaker C: That's true.
[01:43:22] Speaker B: So people don't have to, like, live it in a face front page every day.
[01:43:28] Speaker C: That's why I don't care to be famous.
I hope they work it out, though. But.
[01:43:35] Speaker B: Oh, no, I think it's not. No, no, it's. Yeah, I don't even think they will text. What? You ain't saying?
[01:43:42] Speaker A: You know, how many episodes of the podcast that they have together?
[01:43:49] Speaker B: You say what? Say it again.
[01:43:51] Speaker A: How many episodes did they have of their podcast together?
[01:43:55] Speaker B: Um, I don't know. Like, a bunch. They went on, like, tour and stuff. Like, it was a really good. They had merch, they had journals. Like, they, like.
[01:44:04] Speaker C: It was doing.
[01:44:05] Speaker B: It was, like, their number, I think, was almost there. No, it was, like, a number one podcast on, like, Spotify. It was big. That's pretty.
From a revenue growth point. It was chinking. Okay.
They were.
It was definitely a good source of income financially.
[01:44:27] Speaker C: Oh, no, for sure. Like, yeah. Yeah.
[01:44:31] Speaker B: Anow.
And they had, like, a bunch of people on there. Tabitha Brown. Like, they had, like, really good, like, people on there. So now it's just people gotta, like, pivot and do their own thing. So it's interesting.
[01:44:56] Speaker C: Well, I wish them the best.
That sucks.
[01:45:03] Speaker B: Me too.
And then last but not least, I think, is your question. This the one you added, twin? Yeah.
[01:45:13] Speaker C: I was gonna say, speaking of breakups.
[01:45:16] Speaker B: Right.
[01:45:17] Speaker C: Another one bites the dust, y'all.
I was dating someone for a year ish, and now that's over.
And, you know, I feel like that has brought up a question that I've been experiencing in my short dating journey.
Do y'all really feel like men want a woman that doesn't need him, like, financially or, like.
Like she's not dependent on him at all? Like, a completely super independent woman? I feel, and I have said before that I am, like, hyper independent. So I'm definitely on the extreme end when it comes to being independent. And I feel like.
I feel like men, a lot of times they say they want someone like me, but then when they get with me, it, like, somehow challenges their masculinity.
And I feel like most of the women I know, like, five of my friends are getting married right now. They're engaged. And I feel like when I think about the people who are in relationships and, like, thriving, they definitely are not as independent of a person as I am. And they're not, like, super dependent, but they are. They definitely are able to become that in a relationship. And I feel like I'm always me the same all the time. Like, I don't necessarily become this, like, submissive or wifey type person in relationships. I'm the same. And I. And for some reason, I feel like that threatens maybe a certain type of man. I don't know. But what are your thoughts? I've just been pondering on this for the past few weeks, and I want to know what y'all think. And listeners write in, tell me what y'all think, too.
[01:47:33] Speaker A: Well, me personally, yes.
I do prefer a woman that doesn't need me, and it's not. And it's not so much. Well, it. I guess financially, because as a man, we generally try to, you know, we take care of the household or whatever, but we like knowing that whatever happened to us, you'll be alright if. If we ain't here. That's how I think about it.
[01:48:04] Speaker C: I like that.
[01:48:07] Speaker B: I'm not a. I'm not a dude, but I think everyone wants to, or every guy wants to feel like, needed in some form, whether that's emotionally, financially, whatever the case may be.
Because if you're. This is just me in my head. If you don't need anyone, then what is the point of relationship? Like, what is the point? Like, what are we trying to build if, you know, there are things that you have or qualities that you have that I don't, that we can work on together to build like, an empire. So I think there's some level of like, need in both individuals. Like, you need a woman to nurture and to take care of certain aspects of the household, whereas you need a man to take certain.
Take care of certain aspects of the household and have a different mindset than the woman. So we both can work toward the same goal to elevate. So I think there's some type of need needed for both parties, if that makes sense.
[01:49:23] Speaker C: I feel like when the need is emotional, that's when I feel like.
I don't know if certain type of men don't know how to feel that need, but I don't know because I do. I mean, I feel like relationships are for emotional support and mental support and, you know, supporting each other.
But sometimes I feel like when that isn't a tangible support that's needed, then that's when things get lost in translation.
[01:50:09] Speaker B: So you're saying if it does, if it's like, not money, that's like.
[01:50:15] Speaker C: Or like stuff. Like trash and stuff, you know, like physical, tangible things. If it's not, if you don't need them for that, then it's kind of like, well, what am I here for?
[01:50:32] Speaker B: Right. Well, that would be. I mean, I feel like that's. That is the case for certain men, but that's because they lack the ability to emotionally connect.
And I think that's something that group of men have to work on because I've been taking out the trash before you was here, I've been. You know what I'm saying? These are things that I've done tangibly for myself before you got here. So what can you add to me as an individual? What can we add to each other as a unit? As a partnership together. And if all you can. If all you can come up with is taking out the trash or adding to the financial stability of things, that's literally not enough.
[01:51:20] Speaker C: It's not.
[01:51:21] Speaker B: And you're not in a position to be in a relationship because you're not a well balanced human, if that makes sense.
[01:51:32] Speaker C: Yeah, I feel like that's what happened in this last situation I was in.
So rip to that.
And I'm out here.
[01:51:48] Speaker B: Yeah. But I think there's some good. There's some good takeaways and learning lessons to take from a previous situation.
Not to mention, like, you kind of stepped out and, you know, this is like a new experience for you as far as, like, okay, we're dating after the debacle of, you know, a not so good relationship. So, I mean, this is like a good, you know, feet wet. Know what you like, know what you don't like.
Exercise, so to speak.
[01:52:26] Speaker C: Yes.
[01:52:26] Speaker A: Hot girl summer loading.
[01:52:30] Speaker C: Fellas is out here. Okay.
Ready and willing.
[01:52:41] Speaker B: Somebody's hot girl summer is willing because mine is not.
[01:52:46] Speaker C: I'm out here. I was on the prowl yesterday at the festival. Okay?
[01:52:52] Speaker A: Not the prowl you know you about to be, but they get the cougar age.
[01:52:58] Speaker C: I'm ready. That's why I got to get back in the gym. I'm ready to be a cougar.
All the 25 year olds. What's up?
[01:53:06] Speaker A: Oh, man.
[01:53:09] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:53:12] Speaker C: What's up? Come Holly at your girl.
All right.
Please don't know.
This has been great, y'all. I love y'all.
I want to give research team some time to vent. We gonna end on shot o'clock because she may having a rough time. Let's go ahead.
As you want, girl.
[01:53:40] Speaker B: What happened? What did you say?
[01:53:43] Speaker A: I was saying, damn. What happened? Research.
[01:53:48] Speaker B: Without going into super detail on this, I'd hit you up in the chat because that's where all the bodies lie in the chat.
Got a new boss, and it's not really working out well.
This person is coming in, trying to build Rome. Rome has already been built and established. We just need to keep it clean. That's it. That's it.
But this person is new to the organization, new to the role, and.
[01:54:29] Speaker C: Is.
[01:54:29] Speaker B: It's reverse ageism. Yeah, I think that's what it's called. Reverse ageism toward me. And I don't have assistant in front of my title, so I am not that either. Just. Just so we're clear.
But you know how I come into the room. I'm very confident in what I. What I do. I'm very confident in my communication skills, organizational skills, and the lady just. She's just. I don't know if y'all have ever worked for someone who just comes in chaotic, don't know up from down every day, all day, and that's just how they function.
But I don't. I don't work well with. With those types of people. And I'm not even talking, like, personality wise. I'm very organized and detail oriented, which is what the. What the job role asks for. But it also helps that I'm naturally like this as well. So certain things come to me, like, easily and innately. And for this individual who is supposed to be managing me, this is a foreign language, so she, the person, only been on the job two months, and I'm just praying that I learned whatever lesson this is supposed to be and get up out of there. Claiming promotion in a couple months, like, that's. That's what it's really about. Like, that's. That's what I'm really focused on.
[01:56:02] Speaker A: Let me go ahead and ask if you had an exit strategy or something. Trying to get to. So gotta stay ready.
[01:56:12] Speaker B: Hello. I already got accepted into this program at work. Super prestigious. I don't even know how I got picked, but praise God.
[01:56:22] Speaker A: That'S how you got picked, right?
[01:56:24] Speaker C: What you mean?
[01:56:25] Speaker B: No, I'm just saying.
Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. But I'm just, like.
A lot of people, like, seek to be into this program, so I don't even know what it's like. You don't know what the criteria. You just fill out the application and pray about it.
[01:56:40] Speaker C: That's.
[01:56:40] Speaker B: That's really what you do.
But I got into it. It goes from now to, like, September.
So hopefully, prayerfully, this leads to promotion. So I can be like, deuces. Moving right along.
It's like a seat bump.
[01:56:57] Speaker C: We just brought it full circle back.
[01:56:59] Speaker A: To the claiming it. Yep.
[01:57:01] Speaker C: If you stay ready, you ain't gotta get ready.
[01:57:04] Speaker B: Hello, cuz I had already been planning to be in this program since last year, since they told me about it. And I was doing things to get into it and get on a radar, almost like, you know, pledging, but not really because we don't do that over here. But, you know, that's. That's the go, y'all. New city, new paycheck, new salary grade, all 2024.
[01:57:26] Speaker C: Let's go. Shot a clock to that.
[01:57:28] Speaker A: Oh, 2024. Shot to that.
[01:57:32] Speaker C: Because I got it too lit at the festival.
[01:57:37] Speaker B: I'm doing something shot.
What'd you say, what you doing?
[01:57:42] Speaker A: I said, ain't no wrong with a little tee shot.
[01:57:44] Speaker C: It's a little tea.
[01:57:47] Speaker B: I got some raspberry tea over here as well.
[01:57:51] Speaker A: All right, well, I stayed true to shot a clock. I did have a shot of that brown.
[01:57:56] Speaker C: Okay.
[01:57:57] Speaker A: Now I'm sipping some of that bel air. The white bottle. That's the best bottle. Okay.
Yeah. Uh, yeah, listeners, I know y'all.
[01:58:09] Speaker C: Y'all cooking today.
[01:58:11] Speaker A: It's Sunday. We almost always cook on Sunday.
Sorry, my behalf. She'll be back soon, and I'll let y'all know what we doing.
Viewers, listeners. Thank y'all. Thank y'all. Thank y'all so much for joining us.
I thought this was a really, really good episode, and we hope y'all enjoyed it, too, which I think twin and research team.
[01:58:38] Speaker C: Yes.
[01:58:39] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. He was. He was wondering if we had enough.
[01:58:42] Speaker A: Look it.
[01:58:43] Speaker B: Look at the time.
[01:58:46] Speaker A: Just like we did our day, we did our thing.
Hopefully for y'all, pee money. Be back soon with this. She's. She in them brooks right now, but, you know, can't fault her for that. Gotta do what you gotta do.
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[01:59:41] Speaker C: Love you all. Bye.
