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[00:01:44] Speaker B: What's up? What's up, what's up?
[00:01:47] Speaker A: Fresh off Mother's Day. We are in the month of mothers. Shout out to all the mothers out there.
How was your mother's day?
Let's jump into it. Good morning, fam.
[00:02:04] Speaker C: I would just like to say my mother's day was terrible, but I digress.
[00:02:09] Speaker A: Coming in hot.
[00:02:11] Speaker D: I definitely drank myself to a coma on Mother's Day, so I'm here with you, pee money.
[00:02:18] Speaker C: I think some people have the misconception that it's supposed to be something. I even hear this from actual mothers that it never.
It's like the climax that just doesn't hit right, just right for everybody.
Or maybe it's gotten up there with the Christmas, the expectations of what you should, should not do on Mother's Day. When, like you said once, you know, when we're thinking about our moms, it should be just a month full of love, care, and giving towards motherly feminine energy.
[00:03:02] Speaker D: Maybe I don't think people consider that Mother's Day is not necessarily a happy time for everyone.
So I try to stay away from all that stuff. But my Spelman sister, who I just reconnected with, sent me a thinking of you on Mother's Day gift. And it was like this. Y'all know I'm a pot here.
It was like this little small b thing. If you can put your joints in and look real fancy, like, put it on your ring finger and look real fancy. So that made me feel special.
[00:03:38] Speaker A: Oh, that's the way you show your spell misses.
[00:03:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:43] Speaker D: And she got three kids, so she didn't even have to think about me on Mother's Day. Shout out, girl, I love you. You might.
[00:03:51] Speaker C: It'S probably a big part of it, though, right? Moms, mothers, like you said, caring little. Let's, if it's, if you retract the mother part, just nurturing, giving energy, focusing on that, you could really, you said something interesting, twin, when you said you think people don't consider that. For most people, Mother's Day isn't a happy time. And I disagree. I think people do know they just don't care. And those who do care go out their way to, you know, be nurturing, be loving, be kind.
[00:04:33] Speaker D: So we do need like an, where is the nurturer's day? Caregivers day. Because there's a lot of people who care for others who ain't got no kids and deserve to be praised as well.
And I feel like we need to add that on, maybe not to Mother's Day, but we need another day to recognize those people.
[00:04:58] Speaker A: When you say caregivers, I definitely thought of like, actual caregivers. I was like, labor Day.
[00:05:04] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I wonder if they do have a day. They might have their day research.
[00:05:09] Speaker B: It's the third Friday of every February, so it'll be February 16, 2024 of this past year.
[00:05:15] Speaker D: Caregivers day. Yes.
[00:05:17] Speaker B: National Caregivers Day.
[00:05:18] Speaker C: That's after, yeah, that's after Valentine's Day. That's kind of cute, but it's kind.
[00:05:26] Speaker D: Of buried in there. I'm finna start celebrating.
[00:05:29] Speaker B: Oh, for sure, for sure. I think you guys bring a very interesting perspective or side to Mother's Day.
I will say my mother's day was, it was good. Great. Exhausting. I went home and kind of helped my mom out because she's a caregiver and my sister is a, is a new mom of like a physical child that's here. So that brings a lot of, you know, joy, stress, happiness, all the things. But I think it's important that we remember that. Yes, we recognize mothers, or supposed to recognize mothers on this one day, but I think we should recognize them every day. Just how you should show love every day, not just on Valentine's Day or, you know what I'm saying? I don't necessarily subscribe to just like this one day where you pour into this person and show your appreciation on this one day. I think it's throughout the year you should express that.
[00:06:30] Speaker C: I love that take.
I think that's why I'm so critical of the day, because I'm a big believer in that and doing those things without needing praise. Right. You are giving freely your love, your flowers, your time, your care, your thoughts, your thoughtfulness towards a woman. Right. And so I love that. That's beautiful.
[00:06:58] Speaker B: And I also don't think you should have to, like, bear physical children to be considered, like, a mother or recognized as, you know, a mother, because some people have mentors that are motherly or, like, you know, you show up for people in a motherly way. So I think just in general, you should recognize those people.
[00:07:21] Speaker A: That's a fact. That's a fact. Yeah. Um, let's take a step back really quick. Don't want to start the pod with, you know, somberness and what not. So we'll revisit this towards the end of the broadcast. I do have a loaded question for y'all, though. I want to present it to the group, bring it up a lot on social media about the culture itself.
Who do y'all think owns black culture? Like, who can lay stake to the claim of black culture and what's dictated by that?
[00:08:00] Speaker D: I feel like I have the answer to who should. But that's a good question, because I was thinking about this recently, and I don't feel like we gatekeep black culture as much as we should. Like, you know how you see videos of a white person or some other ethnicity, like, killing it, doing something, quote unquote, that black people do, and we'd be like, yeah, get it, get it. You know, it's like we. It's almost like we like when people like, like Jamaicans, how Jamaicans, like anybody you could be black, white, yellow, whatever. If you align to jamaican, they love it. And I feel like that's kind of a black thing. Like, just a diaspora thing. In general, we kind of, like.
I feel like we kind of be proud when people, like, own our stuff, but then we also be like, y'all appropriate, but we don't get keep enough. So.
[00:08:59] Speaker C: I have a disagreement there because Jamaicans also don't like homophobe. They are homophobia too, right? A lot of.
[00:09:06] Speaker D: A lot of blacks in the diaspora are as well.
[00:09:09] Speaker C: Yeah. So I'm saying Jamaica, because that's a national identity, right, that we're speaking of. And I think when we're talking about black culture, we're talking about something that goes into the space of national identity, cultural identity, racial identity.
And at most, like you said, from a gatekeeping perspective. Black people should do that culturally by protecting. What does it mean to even be black? Blackness. Because I think anybody can do that. I think any race can actually protect black culture by keeping it based on understanding racially. What does it mean? Blackness. What does it mean?
Because you can find that through how, like Adele, right? Adele loved her some black culture, and then when she started dating a black man, it became even more apparent. Right? And so she cosplays a little bit or tropes. It did. But for the most part, you know, or believe that Adele does it from a place of where she is. She just loves black people. She loves Jamaicans, and that's why she thought it was okay to put her in bed two knots and wear jamaican colors. Right? And so I think the gatekeeping conversation is definitely a big part of it. And how black people themselves. And when we say black, fully black, non, and that's an issue there as well. You can't really, within the diaspora, look at the genealogy of black people and truly say we don't have some type of mixture, racial mixing that has happened in our lineage. That's just impossible at this point, some degree.
And so, again, it goes back to, I think, who owns the culture, who has cultural claims over it. I think it's more about protecting, what does it. That culture even mean? What does the blackness, what it means to be black, actually mean?
[00:11:41] Speaker D: What y'all think? Doug, research team.
[00:11:46] Speaker A: Um, I don't think.
Honestly, I don't. I don't know if I even have an opinion on this. The culture. The culture, I think. I don't know if anybody owns the culture right now. I think the culture is.
It might have become bigger than black people.
[00:12:05] Speaker D: I think so, too.
[00:12:07] Speaker A: The culture is just popular culture now. That's what I think. So when other people appropriate or what's a culture vulture, all that stuff, like, it's. They just doing what they think is popular. I mean, most popular things do come from us folks, but, I mean, I don't think we can claim it as our own, technically.
[00:12:33] Speaker C: Do you believe that? I love that train of thought, because a lot of this whole topic has come out through recent rappers, singing rappers, having some debates in battles most recently. But one person, I thought that if you had a case or looked at a case study in culture or black culture being appropriated or taken was post Malone.
I thought about that most recently, where for the most part, most people, like Post Malone, seems like a pretty innocent white man who came into the scene as heavily, you know, dominated white rapper. That people could respect because they just like, I mean, he. He is that pop guy, right? And he raps, and he creates really good music that can be trans. It transcend against racial lines. And when he first came out, he really, you know, did the braids, the gold teeth, and he was already. He was slowly becoming more tatted up, and now he's like a country looking like he's a wrangler guy with the boots, the american flag, the hat, all of that jazz.
So I think you're right where you say that, Doug, when you're thinking about who owns it, nobody owns it. Is it now just become this culture? Is just culture?
[00:14:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Coaches, just cultures. Just whatever's cool at the time. I think the country thing, he could have always been post Malone, maybe. Maybe in his defense. But that first song, that white Iverson song he had back in the day, I wouldn't even consider that, like, a rap song. Like, it was just a cool song. You know what I'm saying? And honestly, I think he just following the money, to be honest with you.
[00:14:51] Speaker C: I saw some reporting on cultural identity, and I'm curious to see what you guys take. It has here quoted in NBC News. This is written by Char Adams, who's a reporter for NBC, black and white to buy out race. Shout out to Char. I follow a lot of her work. So she said, hip hop, like music genres, has racial dimensions and cultural affiliations. Conversations and criticisms of whiteness in the industry have existed within the genre for decades, especially as it has grown into a lucrative, culture defining billion dollar business.
What do you guys think about that? Because, like you just said, it follows the money.
[00:15:41] Speaker B: I would say, for me, is giving, or it's feeling like, oh, it's cool. And it's, you know, this is a way to make money. So let me cross over into.
[00:15:54] Speaker D: What.
[00:15:54] Speaker B: Black people find attractive and what black people will spend their money on, whether I'm black or not. Like, how do I capitalize off this culture? How do I capitalize off this particular branding or marketing?
[00:16:08] Speaker D: I definitely think white people do that as long as it suits them, and then they go back to being white. That is Miley Cyrus and Justin Bieber.
[00:16:20] Speaker C: You know, I love where you're going, twin, because the follow up is, are we really gatekeeping Drake out of blackness, or.
Or any person that takes black culture? Or are we looking at really, how do they benefit from white supremacy?
So, I love that you were going that way, twin.
[00:16:42] Speaker D: I don't know that we're gatekeeping Drake, but I do feel like.
I feel like, black Americans specifically get a little bit more upset at a black or a half black person from somewhere else trying to, like, quote unquote, pretend to be hip than we do against other races that kind of appropriate our stuff.
It's almost like we'd be mad at people who ain't black enough who be trying to be black, but we don't necessarily be mad at the Miley's and the Justin Biebers.
[00:17:28] Speaker C: You brought up something that's interesting. We said black enough. And for the most part, when you guys are looking at a visual representation of us on YouTube, shout out to YouTube and to our subscribers. For the most part, we're all on that darker spectrum of black, where we could introduce colorism into it. Right. And had Drake or any person that appropriates black culture be a darker hue, do we think then it would be easy to have a takeaway on his blackness because he would essentially look more black? And one thing that I think about that is about Beyonce's hair. There was all this discussion about, you know, there's no way her hair was that long as a black woman and the way she bleaches and blondes and does the things that she does to her hair. And when we saw her do her own tutorial on cred, it was like, beyonce not black enough for her own hair.
Kind of crazy.
[00:18:44] Speaker B: I think when that happened with Beyonce, my expectation was that her hair should be long. Like, she has the means, the financial resources for her hair to be taken care of in a healthy, consistent way. So my expectation was like, yeah, she should have, like, booty butt length, you know, bleach blonde hair because she can afford to.
[00:19:09] Speaker D: Wait. What happened? People were saying she wasn't black enough because she got long hair.
[00:19:14] Speaker C: Bleach. Bleach. You know how much she bleaches her hair like that, that, that bleach. Um, that right now, she's rocking that very ash platinum look.
[00:19:31] Speaker D: Yeah. Because of the color, people say she not black enough.
[00:19:34] Speaker C: Well, it should be broken off, and.
[00:19:36] Speaker B: Like, she should be basically raw headed.
[00:19:40] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Who said that? The culture. That's what I. So that's what I'm saying is, like.
And then I think, to her defense, we troll these people enough that she felt that she had to drop the tutorial. Right. Because even when you saw the way, like, I don't know if you noticed this research team, but even the way she took down her ponytail, like, you saw, she takes very good care with her hair. She was very, you know, you know, very, like, almost as if it was feathers on her head. And so. And I. And I bring that up because I think the releasing other video was to troll us, us being the culture. But then that's what I'm saying, is that when we think about blackness and the degree in which we criticize because. And I say this because I've been in some seminars that were talking about how beyonce was recently embodying country, and.
Which is ridiculous because she is from Texas. It'd be different if she didn't live in, like, she wasn't from Texas. Right. It would. It would be a little bit ridiculous, but she's from Texas. And a lot of black people said, but if she was not the color, the hue that she was, that she probably wouldn't be able to do what she's been able to do and move through all the different genres.
[00:21:22] Speaker D: Well, I agree with that, especially since she came out in the early two thousands when it was really ridiculous. Have y'all gone back and looked at some of them early 2000 movies? We was really on some color wildlife.
I feel like back then, if you weren't super, super, super skinny and of the lighter hue, you weren't really gonna make it far. But going back to the hair thing, I don't understand why associating damaged hair with black women is still a thing. Isn't. Haven't we? We have our own products and stuff now to where that shouldn't still be an idea. I think, like, I dye my own natural hair, bleach blind all the time. And my is healthy and full and moist. Okay. And I ain't nowhere near rich.
[00:22:21] Speaker C: So. Yeah. You also have really good hair texture.
Your coil, what is that?
[00:22:28] Speaker B: What is that? What is that? Good hair.
[00:22:33] Speaker C: No, movie. Yes, a movie. I know. It's a trope on the movie as well as the culture is she just defined for her what good hair is, which is moistness, fullness, you know, the ability to be able to put. I mean, at the end of the day, when you bleach your hair, it's. It's a chemical year. It's. It is the new relaxer. Right. And so when we was just, for me, in it forever, what did just, for me replace. Right. The hot comb. And it goes just back to, how do you treat your hair? How do we treat hair? How do we take care of our hair? It's no different than how we take care of our skin. Like the soap that you're using, the deodorant you use, you know, self care.
And so I think those. So to back away from what's good and bad? I think she was defining for herself what good hair is, because the negative of that would be breakage, shedding, thinning, thinning baldness.
[00:23:48] Speaker D: It do be a lot of people with no edges, and I do be kind of shocked by that. In 2024, they be gone, too. They go.
And, like, my hair is fine and soft. So if I put something in my head, if I leave braids in too long or whatever, my edges will start to looking a little thin. But then you got to give it a break. Put the little do grow, you know, a little coconut oil on it, give it a little break, and they be right back.
So how you ain't got no edges at all?
[00:24:24] Speaker A: Right back. Right back. Let's not, uh, edge shame. Because I think all black folks, all those folks in the culture, you know, like, folks gonna spend some money on their hair. Some of us can spend as much, but we gonna spend some money on some hair and some clothes.
[00:24:43] Speaker C: Doug knows somebody with no edges, y'all. Right.
[00:24:52] Speaker A: Speaking of clothes and fits, did anybody catch the metcalf met gala clips, or did they watch it?
[00:25:01] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. The Met gala is always talk about an evening that is the culture, right. And goes back to what you were saying earlier, Doug, with how I think that black people, blackness, just. And what we bring to the table, our sauce, our seasonings, our flavor, just bring to culture because it was everywhere. I thought the Met gala was well done this year.
Immediate losers, though, were Cardi B.
She looked like Frankenstein, and I don't know if she was trying to be the bride of Frankenstein.
[00:25:48] Speaker B: He said she didn't have the pedestal to stand up on it, to really, like, give the dress what, you know, visually what it was supposed to give because they wouldn't let her have it on a red carpet.
[00:25:58] Speaker C: They didn't anything.
[00:25:59] Speaker D: It was getting Marge Simpson.
[00:26:02] Speaker C: It gave March, and I thought. I thought Bride of Frankenstein, because she. I think. I don't know if they've officially divorced or they are. I know they're separated. We're separating. What she wants to be they on and off. I mean, clearly, he is the person she's in love with, and you don't get to choose who you love. And she has kids with him, so.
[00:26:25] Speaker D: I mean, you don't get to choose.
[00:26:28] Speaker B: Maybe who you love, but you get to choose how you are loved and what you accept and don't accept.
[00:26:34] Speaker C: Well, she. She doesn't accept and has said she doesn't accept the cheating, but he continues to do it, and she continues to stay with him. So I don't know where they are in their relationship. I just know she lost the gala this, this. This time around.
[00:26:49] Speaker D: She likes her nails.
[00:26:52] Speaker C: She was immediate. No, for me.
[00:26:54] Speaker D: I mean, immediate. No, for me. Was Zoe Zaldana for real?
[00:26:59] Speaker C: I loved it.
[00:27:00] Speaker D: No, but it wasn't on theme. It looked like she was going to the beach.
[00:27:06] Speaker B: You love.
[00:27:07] Speaker C: Oh, no, no, no. I was thinking of Zendaya. Sorry.
[00:27:10] Speaker D: No, no.
[00:27:13] Speaker C: Sorry.
[00:27:13] Speaker D: Sorry about Zoe with the damn Chloe belt on.
[00:27:18] Speaker C: Yeah, she was.
She was going to. She was going. I think she had just walked off the PTA meeting with her kids. That's what she knows. She literally went and just dropped them off. And, you know, she had just picked them up from school. It was like, let me just swing through here real quick. Because there was no way. Her stylist.
Yeah, and a lot of times, this, these, these. It's more about the stylist. And that's why, um, Zendaya one is because, you know, they tried to run law up out of the whole scene. I mean, the things that they were saying about law. And, you know, I could imagine in fashion, there is a sense of cattiness that just happens. It's fashion. I mean, I just. You would have a little bit of that expectation, but, you know, I think it's more about a stylist. And I don't think Zoe had a stylist or her stylist was booked somebody. So that's what makes me believe she had just dropped her kids off and was like, let me go around that real quick and see by these people.
And she has such a face card that at the end of the day, she's so beautiful. You know, like, it looked terrible on film, but I bet in person, like, her face is just gorgeous. And at the end of the day, like, I would bet that she was, like, my face card on swipe.
[00:28:54] Speaker D: So it's a no.
[00:28:57] Speaker B: She could have stayed home.
[00:29:00] Speaker A: I'm definitely, like, scrolling through the photos of, I guess, the most popular fits in the Met gala. Obviously, that's not really my thing.
And it just looked like Zoe don't even know, like, what the theme was.
[00:29:14] Speaker C: No, she did.
[00:29:15] Speaker A: Like, they didn't. Like, like, she. She bought a, like, a resale ticket from, like, stubhub or something. She just. She copped it on the way there. Like, I'm confused.
[00:29:28] Speaker D: Like, what?
And I. You know what? That's a critique I have of the Met gallon in general, I feel like a lot of celebrities don't even care about the theme. They just be like, I'm gonna just show up and be cute and that's it. And it's like, but that's point of the Met gala is the thing.
[00:29:47] Speaker A: You gonna be cute? Are you trying to put on the most ridiculous thing that you could find?
[00:29:51] Speaker C: Clicks yeah, but, you know, I think she had to show up because they say, and this is what I'm saying is Anna went toward the invitations. It's invitation only, so, yeah, you get invited.
Yeah, everybody doesn't go. So I think she had to show up. So I think she was like, oh, the twins. Cause I think Zoe got twins. The twins. Or she got two kids. The twins.
[00:30:16] Speaker B: They're twins.
[00:30:17] Speaker C: Yeah. She was like, the twins got math. Word. Let me, let me just, let me, let me just show up. Because, you know, life is. We have all. It is May 2024, and I am fearful of what the rest of this year is going to bring. Like, it's been, it's been on everybody head, and I just feel like that's what she gave. Like, I ain't got time for this, but if I don't show up, Anna gonna have some words. And I think that's why she was really there. A bigger winner, other than Zendaya was the little waterfall girl. Tyler. What's her name?
[00:30:58] Speaker D: Tyler with the sand on.
[00:31:02] Speaker C: Yeah, she. That was, yeah. She is the new Cinderella of, of.
She's given me a younger version of Victoria or Victoria Monet. She's given me, like, a younger version of her.
Like, is it really on theme, though?
[00:31:23] Speaker D: Garden of time and sand?
[00:31:27] Speaker C: Well, you have to take again back to the stylist and the designer, I think. Why her down one was. It was custom. Um, uh, uh, ball. I'm gonna say it wrong, y'all.
She was, like, painted with descent.
[00:31:49] Speaker B: Like, she had to physically, like, it.
[00:31:51] Speaker C: Was casted on her.
Yeah. And Oliver Paul Bauman. I think it's Balmany. I don't know, y'all, I'm saying it correctly, but he is the director of that house, and he showed up with braids looking like a modern day pharaoh Cleopatra one because he has a beautiful face card as well.
And so I think it was more about the actual construction of the gown more than anything, because every year there's a gown or something that does something. Right. Like, one year there was the Cinderella gown that changed colors when the fairy godmother, like the designer had like a wand or something, and then it. She twirled and, like, it changed colors.
So I think that's why she was the bigger winner than Zendaya.
[00:32:48] Speaker D: Definitely creative.
[00:32:50] Speaker C: Just because. And then they cut it, I think, towards. At some point in the evening, they made that gown into a miniskirt. Oh, nice. Yeah. So, yeah, they did. Yeah.
[00:33:05] Speaker D: Well, speaking of cultural appropriation and terrible and damaged looking hair, your girl Kim was looking crazy to me with that bleach blonde hair, looking like it's gonna fall out. And her two inch waist. Why, girl, we know you can't breathe. Why? And what did that have to do with the garden of time?
[00:33:31] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:33:33] Speaker B: Him.
In case our viewers, listeners don't know.
Kardashian.
[00:33:39] Speaker C: Kardashian. Just.
They are giving.
I don't wash out. Overrated. No, because they're still big in the business. They're big enough in the business where they're still making money. Money. Right. And so, um.
[00:33:58] Speaker D: I don't.
[00:33:59] Speaker C: I don't really. I think what's been interesting about her career most lately is that she's less entertaining without men being with her, like. Or who she's dating or, you know, like she really is.
And that she's been.
[00:34:18] Speaker B: That's how she started.
[00:34:20] Speaker C: She started her.
[00:34:22] Speaker B: That's like, how we got to know her, because she was with a man in a video.
[00:34:27] Speaker C: Yeah.
It's giving. Boring. Because she has, um.
She was at court side with north for the WNBA, one of their kickoff games, which I think is incredible. But also, people don't realize that now she is a part of the brand. Skims is, you know, the official sponsor of both the NBA and the WNBA. And so, you know, to some degree, she's there because of business. But, like, our hair, like you said, twin that. That very bleachy.
[00:35:06] Speaker D: It's not.
[00:35:07] Speaker C: Look. She is. It's not.
Was it her hair? Like, her actual natural hair? It looks like her natural hair.
[00:35:14] Speaker D: It's not. Even worse.
[00:35:16] Speaker C: Yeah, if it's a wig, that's a terrible way.
Let me pull out this picture. Please.
[00:35:21] Speaker D: Look. Please. I'm gonna put it in the chat.
[00:35:23] Speaker C: Yeah. Because even if you look at her with north, it's the same color, so I think it's her hair.
Um, but, yeah, she wasn't giving, and I don't like to spend too much time on the Kardashians.
[00:35:38] Speaker D: Move on from that. I just had to.
[00:35:40] Speaker C: Yeah, she. But, you know, that's. It goes back to when you bleaching your hair, you either need to keep it short and cut, correct, healthy, or keep it, if you're gonna wear it long, get a wig or keep it healthy, which requires a lot of resources financially to maintain that healthy, luxurious, uh, hair. And so, um.
Yeah. Shout out to the Met gala, though. I thought it was a good evening, um, for the good folks, uh, male.
[00:36:21] Speaker D: Wise, uh, I feel like, male wise, this was a flop. And a yes. Chris Hemsworth, now, he have on nothing but a tan suit showing his chest, which you could have tried harder. But also, that man is so fine that he could have showed up in a sheet and I would have been like, yes. Five stars.
[00:36:45] Speaker C: Five stars.
[00:36:47] Speaker D: Okay, I'm done.
[00:36:49] Speaker A: Interesting. I actually didn't know.
I actually didn't see Kim's outfit, but y'all said she had bleached blonde.
[00:36:57] Speaker D: I put it in the chat. I put a picture in the chat.
[00:37:00] Speaker A: Oh, my bad. But did she have a badly built? Which body?
Did they get it popping in the House of Representatives or not? Come back in a week.
[00:37:14] Speaker D: It definitely looked better. Well, I don't know if it looked better. It was given. Marjorie Taylor Greene.
[00:37:19] Speaker C: It was Marjorie. Let's make sure we have for the readers and listeners.
Marjorie Taylor Green. I think your fake, fake eyelashes are messing up. AOC.
A brown woman.
That is absolutely unacceptable. How dare you attack the physical person appearance of another person.
Major made. Marjorie Taylor Greene. Why don't you debate me, AOC? I think that's going to be self evident.
Major E. Taylor Green. Yeah. You don't have enough intelligence.
[00:37:56] Speaker D: Oh, I forgot she said that. But, you know, I forgot she was even still in Congress.
[00:38:01] Speaker C: Nobody. Well, she is representative of a district in state of Florida in. Lord.
[00:38:07] Speaker A: Oh, that makes Georgia. She's in Georgia.
[00:38:10] Speaker C: You sure?
[00:38:10] Speaker A: She's a Georgia representative of who?
But I think she's just there to troll.
[00:38:20] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:38:21] Speaker A: I don't know what else she's good for, what she does. I just don't know. She just there to talk and distract.
[00:38:28] Speaker D: Distract.
[00:38:29] Speaker C: I don't think so. I think. Oh, you're absolutely right. She is the representative of. So that's y'all folks of the 14th district in Georgia. And I'm gonna disagree. I think what major E. Taylor Greene and other members of Congress, that their behavior and what they do is a very direct representation of a lot of people in America.
And let's. And let's continue because what's happening in this sequence is they're in a Senate committee, and it's probably in the evening at this point. So for listeners, this, the taxpayer, it.
[00:39:10] Speaker D: Was 10:30 p.m. yeah.
[00:39:13] Speaker C: The tax dollars that we. That they take from us every month or every paycheck or anytime we get paid, it goes to your local representative and so they're working.
They usually work weird hours like this when they're on a committee. So it's late.
And, you know, Senator Jasmine Crockett was reading, trying to find out why was Marjorie Taylor Greene asking about another senator, another senators on this committee's head, or somebody working in an office of, like, a banking place, like a corporate place. And so Jasmine is like, why are you even asking it again, it's late.
And she says, what does that have anything to do with, you know, relevant to this committee?
The issue that happens here is James Kroner, who is the chair of the committee.
He tries to debt it, where he says, after she says to AOC, you don't have enough intelligence. James Kroner says, Miss Green, do you agree to unanimously consent to strike your words? Because, remember, everything that they say is recorded.
So Maitrey then doubles down and say, yes, I'll check my words, but I'm not apologizing.
So you meant what you said. But there is also a level of decorum that each senator, senator, or any person of the community, which are mostly senators, have to, have to, have to have or exhibit. For example, post this, Senator Jamie Ruskin has been said that a lot of members at that point had been drinking. Like, they probably went to dinner and then they went back to the meeting. It's very normal.
[00:41:02] Speaker B: What you mean drinking, like on the job?
[00:41:04] Speaker C: That's 30.
[00:41:05] Speaker D: So they probably.
[00:41:08] Speaker A: Let me clear. Clear up just a couple things. So Marjorie Taylor's green. She was asking, actually asking or making statements about the judge in Trump's criminal trial in New York, the judge's daughter. What that has to do with the House of Representatives, I have no clue. The meeting was originally scheduled for 10:00 a.m. and it was moved to 10:30 p.m. because. Because basically five or six members of this specific committee wanted to go attend Trump's trial in New York. So they went to his trial all day, and this meeting had to be moved to 1030. So everybody's probably.
Whatever. Yeah, yeah.
[00:41:51] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:41:54] Speaker A: That was it.
[00:41:57] Speaker D: Also, research team. It's not strange for people on Capitol Hill to be drinking in the office or have a dinner meeting or, you know, that's kind of normal, right?
[00:42:10] Speaker B: That's norm. But I mean, like, you. You drinking and then coming back to work.
[00:42:15] Speaker D: Yes.
[00:42:16] Speaker B: To decide on things.
[00:42:17] Speaker D: Yeah.
People at my job used to keep. When I ain't even work, when I worked in DC, people at my job used to keep little liquor bottles just at the desk. Just at the desk. And we would go get drunk and sometimes come back if we still had, you know, some on call work to do or whatever like that. That don't sound far fetched to me, but anyway, go ahead.
[00:42:42] Speaker C: Yeah. And I think that what we saw that took place was what is continually to permeate through american politics is what's facts, what's truth, what's fiction is what we are seeing as a visual, or what is, you know, a passive aggressiveness towards something. And so when Marjorie is doing this, she knows she's intently antagonizing another senator, which you can't do because of Senate decorum. And even the fact that Raskin later says, oh, people might have been drinking, is like, it still doesn't make the behavior excusable. So when James Cromer kind of tries to debt it by simply saying, do you agree to an anonymous consent to strike your words? And she's basically like, yeah, you can strike them, but I meant what I said.
It gives a little bit more weight to what Senator Jasmine Crockett then says, I'm just curious to better understand your ruling. She's talking to Senator Comer. If someone on this committee then starts talking about somebody beach, blonde, bad bill, butch, body, dot, dot, dot, that would not be engaging in personalities, correct.
Senator Cromwell?
[00:44:04] Speaker A: I thought that was genius of her.
[00:44:08] Speaker D: Own to fly so swift.
[00:44:11] Speaker C: Chairman Cromer says, a what now?
[00:44:16] Speaker D: You heard what she said.
[00:44:19] Speaker B: He might have not because he has hearing aids. And he said, like, he legit may have not.
[00:44:26] Speaker A: Well, if that was the case, he should have said, I got two hearing aids for everything that they said that night.
[00:44:32] Speaker C: You heard it.
And so that's. And I think that's why it was easy for us to walk down what actually was said and what transpired and what is interpretation of, you know, just where american politics are today. Because clearly, there's this muddiness that's happening. And Senator Crockett basically just said, okay, but I'm gonna show you better than I'm gonna tell you. And she gives us a perfect example of what it would mean. And then what transpired after was probably the most disappointing part of the. The entire evening, which was, how many times do black women have to stand up for themselves?
And then, because they do, they're seen as being aggressive every time.
[00:45:25] Speaker D: And I think that's. I. That's why I feel like Marjorie is a troll planted in Congress to rile up the left, you know, or people who gonna be emotional and then just sit back and play the victim like white women do. And I don't like that. But I also like that jasmine stood up for herself because clearly nobody else in the room was gonna say nothing.
And I have a side note.
When will white people learn not to start a roasting session with black people?
[00:46:00] Speaker A: Really, lady, talk about it.
[00:46:02] Speaker D: Fake eyelashes. That's all you got. Come on. Real. And you look like that. Come on. And that was on the fly. What if she had had time to really drag this fulfillment?
[00:46:13] Speaker C: That's what I'm saying.
[00:46:14] Speaker B: She was so swift.
[00:46:16] Speaker D: I said, why, girl?
[00:46:18] Speaker A: I really couldn't believe she even tried it, because black women pretty much have the swiftest tongue on the planet. So, like, I couldn't believe she tried to say that.
[00:46:30] Speaker C: But she said what she said that was. That's what lands me on, why Senator Crockett had to go for her the way she had to, because. Oh, you saying what you said, girl. Let me tell you something better.
Let me give you.
[00:46:46] Speaker D: We clarifying what the land exactly.
[00:46:51] Speaker C: Because the truth is, what she said also was very transcendent upon racism.
Oh. And I have no offense to anyone that does CrossFit, but that's exactly what they look like.
[00:47:08] Speaker D: You'll be looking like that.
They do.
Girl, where is your skincare routine? Girl.
[00:47:18] Speaker C: Skincare, hair care. You just you.
And again, that's why I believe that she really is a representation of a large group of women or fan or base of Americans that are they just, that's how they are. They. As soon as you say something to them or they say something to you and you clarify them, it's, now it's a bunch of, oh, well, you're angry, you're argumentative, and it's like, why did it even take Senator Crockett to say such a thing?
Why does she have to say that? Because it's okay for her to do it, but I can't do it. And it just goes back to the state of where we are in american politics, which is there are muddy lines. We have someone running for president right now who could likely win former president in November.
So.
And that's a reality. And this person caused an insurrection and has done a numerous of things, ruined, you know, many, many people's lives. And a lot of that is based on, you know, I can do it, but you can't do it. Like, former President Trump could pay $750 on his taxes, but we can't.
[00:49:03] Speaker A: That's the most, you know what was crazy about this?
About this little tiff in the rep with the representatives. I'm like, to me, it kind of humanize them a little bit because it's like they in there cracking jokes on each other like, like regular folks do. Like, I kind of have a feeling like they just went in the back when they was done and they just got it rocking like it was back there fighting or something.
[00:49:26] Speaker D: I know for real, it did make them feel really normal. It's about, I think somebody at the end said it's like an episode of Jerry Springer.
Also, what's wrong with fake lashes? Marjorie?
I don't think that even an insult.
[00:49:45] Speaker C: I think she was talking. So Senator James Crockett later said that people in Margie's, you know, political realm, they've been talking about her blackness for years because she's also so Jasmine has a reputation of being pro embodiment of. When Michelle Obama said, we go high, that ain't Jasmine Crockett. Jasmine gives it all the way through and through.
Like you said earlier, the black woman with the, that quick tongue, she got a grandma somewhere right now praying for her. And she know how to make a really good pot of greens and macaroni and cheese. She is not Keisha, not John Keisha, who played herself trying to make that macaroni and cheese that won Christmas. That's not what Jasmine's given. She's given, I'm a black woman through and through, and there is nobody going to, you know, disseminate or take away from my character. And I'm not going to change, and I'm not going to become what you guys want me to become, quote unquote, look what looks wise in Congress.
So I think that's where the whole eyelash thing came from, is we've talked about the lash problem here on the show, I believe, previously. But, like, women been wearing eyelashes for years. I mean, I wear lashes. I do. I've done extensions before, and they're very natural beauty enhancement.
That's why she makes a point to bring out the beat, the bleach blonde of Marjorie, because that's not her real color. That's not the color of her hair. You could tell it's damaged through the bleaching. And so, and that's what color is. Color is a natural, beautiful beauty enhancing technique that women use. And she really was trying to call her ghetto. And that's what Jasmine knew. Jasmine knew. Senator Crockett knew. That's what she was alluded to because.
[00:51:57] Speaker D: Hand thing, too, as if showing, like, fluttering eyelashes. Girl, white women wear fake eyelashes, too. What are we doing?
[00:52:06] Speaker A: I mean, definitely calling her ghetto, but Marjorie, Marjorie Taylor Greene, she knows. She knows her audience.
[00:52:14] Speaker C: Yeah, she knows her audience, but she said numerous of times she is in Congress because the people where she comes from, let's see where that district is. Research team. Where she comes from is from Milledgeville.
[00:52:28] Speaker A: Jordan, North Georgia, somewhere in it, they love her.
[00:52:32] Speaker C: That. Where she gets her votes, her constituents, they love her.
That's why she walk around talking, acting, showing out x, y, z, like that.
Well, and we'll get reelected.
[00:52:58] Speaker D: She will. Because themselves, southern Georgia this way. I got to get out of Georgia. Them people in southern Georgia, and really anywhere besides Atlanta, they'd be like that. They believe that stuff.
They love her.
[00:53:11] Speaker C: You know, based on a quote. Look, it looks like Georgia's 14th congressional district is 77.5% white Georgia.
[00:53:23] Speaker D: So.
[00:53:27] Speaker C: It'S 8.9% black, and it looks like it's west of Marietta and goes all the way up to north Georgia, right on the Georgia line of Chattanooga, the city.
So it goes up through Rome, that whole little corner over there.
And that's something that's a bigger conversation around representation of american politics, is you're seeing where a state like Georgia, who has always been considerably red with the emerging larger cities like Atlanta, that votes blue, you are seeing now on the outskirts, this increasingly growing number of kind of holding your ground type mentality. And that's why she's the way she acts, because they. They believe.
They, quote, temptations. They believe that we're trying to steal something from them, or we're trying to, like, they. This is life or death for them, and that's why she act that way. So, um, shout out to every.
And I mean this whole. I mean this, seriously, shout out to every bleach blonde, bad built, butch body in the world. We see you.
[00:55:07] Speaker B: Bro.
[00:55:08] Speaker C: I can't hear you. We hear you.
[00:55:11] Speaker A: I actually don't see them, but go ahead.
[00:55:16] Speaker C: And with that, we're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back. And we're back. So, still wrapping up, um, the latest and greatest.
Y'all know I'm a big fantasy fiction, Game of Thrones trilogies, all that. So I love a good war. Same. Love a great, warm. I think my favorite war most recently has been in Shogun.
Fantastic. Well done by FX, where they're showing early, early relationships between the samurai and the Portuguese.
Very, very early stage, but really highlighting japanese culture, samurai culture, and the civilizations that were there in the civil wars that they had prior to european powers in their infiltration. And so, love a good war, and there are a lot of battles out there. Right now we got Chris Brown and Quavo, Shannon Sharp and Shaq.
Yeah, clearly there's great wars going on in the Senate. Committees were bleach blonde, bad built, butch, bodies are being drugged.
And, yeah, no better dragging is done with no violence. Actual violence is between rappers and hip hop.
[00:57:19] Speaker D: Well, they did shoot up Drake House.
[00:57:24] Speaker C: He was saying. Yeah, he, he said, he said, um.
[00:57:31] Speaker B: What do you say?
[00:57:33] Speaker C: He said in his songs, people like to click up. And he got the. He. He has security.
And apparently, apparently the shootings have actually caused issues for him in Toronto because apparently, based on the canadian government, Drake had asked for special, um, like hedging for his home because apparently he, he kind of does like what Chris Brown does. Like, everybody knows where Chris Brown lives. Apparently you could just look like, go drive up to his house. And it's the same with Drake. And so it'll be interesting because apparently, yeah. That where he lives had actual, actual crime just happening.
And that's because, I mean, people, the economy is crazy. We're feeling it in America, but it is worldwide like that, Robin, and snatching going, really, it's going to be an interesting rest of the year. And so it'd be interesting to see how that plays out. And I would like to really put the disclaimer out that those things were non related.
We have no, no proof and definitely do not want to put out any narratives around actual violence being taking place.
I think there is a healthy, there is a very healthy way to dialogue in debating, and I think there's no better way to debate than in music. And so I thought, I thought the whole, you know, who won the great war? And, you know, people think Kendrick has, or some people think Drake has. Some people have come out and said that a lot of people always dislike Drake. And this was just something that was a projection or reflection what the industry always felt.
And so I said that as someone who loves studies the art of war, I thought I would take a bigger takeaway and say, no. ₩1. That's just me.
[00:59:57] Speaker A: I am going to go out on a ledge.
I had a take last pod saying Drake was getting Kendrick out of here. I was wrong. I was wrong.
I'm taking it back.
[01:00:12] Speaker C: Not the resident Drake man, the Drake.
[01:00:17] Speaker A: I take it back and not. And you can. I think you can look at this, this battle from a bunch of different ways. I don't think Drake lost as bad as people make it out to be. I think there's just a lot of people against him, probably, but he did, in fact, lose.
And I actually don't think it's over yet.
[01:00:37] Speaker D: So, wait, now, what made you change your opinion, Doug?
[01:00:43] Speaker A: Um, I still. I think lyrically, Kendrick out outmatched him, and I think he just, he'd been planning this for a long time, is what I think. I think we covered that last pot, but personally, I think Drake raps better. I think his flows are better, so I think his songs are better. But I think lyrically, Kendrick was better. And if we gone off battle, I think. I think Kendrick wan just with that.
[01:01:14] Speaker C: Again, Swain, you're a big fantasy person, too. Did you feel like this was a battle of good and evil, the rightful heir to the throne?
[01:01:27] Speaker D: I honestly, as a fan of both. Well, I don't know if I'm really much of a Drake fan anymore after that concert, but I'm not a knot fan. I feel like Kendrick highlighted a lot of things about Drake that I can't say the culture, but I was kind of feeling, and he kind of brought it to the forefront, and it's like, he's not wrong, and I guess I do. I I was listening to some old Drake the other day because I'm like, let me see how I really feel. I think last episode I said, I don't know who I feel like is better lyrically.
I agree with what Dub said. I do think Drake makes better songs per se, but I think lyrically, I think Kendrick got Drake the body here, bro.
[01:02:25] Speaker C: I think so I'd like to say again, my stance is nobody won.
[01:02:37] Speaker D: Why do you say nobody won, though? You feel like.
[01:02:43] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. I feel like the culture won because we have been. We have been wanting good music. Anything that I want more than anything is quality music. Quality. And we had previously discussed on for all my dogs and lover boy, certified lover boy. I mean, most of the most recent things that Drake had put out, and he oversaturates the market a bit, was we were kind of questioning the things he was saying, and he has questionable behaviors. Um, but I do love that it really brought back hating, and I like the way they brought back Hayden because I, when I say I had forgotten and I had just watched the greatest night in Hollywood or whatever with Michael Jackson, created that song, but I forgot about Mike and Prince beefing forever.
[01:03:53] Speaker D: Them boys did not. I forgot about that, too.
[01:03:55] Speaker C: They did not. And we're talking about the pinnacle of black music, black artistry. And them, too was like that, too, you know?
[01:04:07] Speaker A: And so they beefing in the afterlife. I doubt they are.
[01:04:13] Speaker C: They still. They in the ancestral plane talking cash like they still don't, you know? And so I love that it resurrected a sense of healthy hating, because I think the other thing that's interesting is that you just don't. You just don't mess with everybody. And I think that's why it ends with they not like us, because they is speaking to what Dove is saying. Like, one, Drake is canadian. We really be forgetting that he is not american.
And if it's a. If you're. If you're choosing who is the representation of any type of culture, Americans are just ridiculous in that way. We're like, well, it's always going to be America on top.
[01:05:10] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:05:11] Speaker C: You know, and so, and then Drake doesn't have. And we talked about this at the top of the show. Any real place in Toronto that he can call, that's his national identity. Like, look at 21 Savage. 21 drove, took his behind all the way over to England and created his latest album. Right. And was able to appropriate himself into black culture there. And that's what Drake didn't have, where he could call on.
And I think who he would have would have been Atlanta. That would have been the closest thing. And I thought, I loved that take where Kendrick also brought to the forefront that Atlanta is the mecca of black culture.
They are the ones that city, just what that city does. I'm glad, you know, our Peter Rico Wade. Like, I hate that he, you know, he had just passed on when all this was happening. But I'm like, you know, Atlanta is the mecca of black culture. It is the Mecca. There's no other place that can. Can even click. We're talking about claiming culture. Who. Who's the one putting it out? Is Atlanta, period.
[01:06:30] Speaker A: That's a fact. That's a fact.
[01:06:31] Speaker C: And so for him to kindred, for him to, you know, identify, that's where we all get the sauce from. That's where we get all the juice from. And then save. And top of that, I don't be in my city.
Let me show you what my city do. And he got them. They are gonna crip rock themselves to death this summer.
They are going to barbecue, be on jet skis. They say the way that that song has electrified and we're. I mean, I'm a big cali lover, twins. A big cali lover research team is a big cat lover. I don't know how much you got there, dub, but them Cali boys, this is like, the biggest thing they've had in a long.
And then they. Then they got the best weed, you know, out in California. So that just makes it even worse, because they. What did he say? The. He is even the corny. It's even corny to rap.
Get this. Jabroni. He called him a jaboni, took it back to wrestling.
[01:07:45] Speaker A: That was crazy.
[01:07:46] Speaker D: And that's a good point. Like, we don't see Drake just in his hood chilling ever.
[01:07:53] Speaker A: Like, Drake is the biggest star in the world. Him and Taylor, he can't just.
He don't even have a hood.
[01:08:01] Speaker C: I was gonna say, I don't think.
[01:08:04] Speaker B: You don't have no, yeah.
[01:08:07] Speaker A: To be fair to Drake, I know we talking about the cultural appropriation and him being from Toronto, but, I mean, he's rapped and made songs about him spending his summers with his dad in Memphis. He got black ass cousins. We've seen photos of him with his family before. So it ain't like he was just in Toronto exclusively. His parents weren't together.
[01:08:31] Speaker C: Right.
[01:08:32] Speaker D: But I guess I've always kind of felt like, what is. It's always kind of felt to me, like, what is Drake's identity?
[01:08:42] Speaker C: And that's what. And that's what Kendrick ripped off. He took, you know, he ripped it off and was like, show us. And so, um, you know, I would conclude with thinking that. I do think that I just love the revisitation of hating. I thought, you know, because it. It had almost seemed bad because you a hater. It's like if you're hating on the right things or you, or you have, you know, healthy debate or you have a healthy dislike of, you know, what this person does like. It ain't always got to be all Kumbaya. And I kind of, I like that that's what this brought up, because it's going to really talk some more of what you were saying earlier, twin, about how do we, if culture doesn't belong to black people, but black people are those who keep culture alive. We have to protect what it means to be. What is blackness? What does that mean to Americans? What does that mean culturally from a global perspective? And all of us in the diaspora, we're all still. Still very much closely, not as far removed as we would like to believe from the atrocities of slavery. And that was probably, I just felt in my gut the minute that Drake even brought that into the mix, I was like, oh, man, you just. You now, you also don't got no educated black men around you because somebody would have heard that and be like, bro, take that out.
[01:10:22] Speaker D: Take that out.
[01:10:23] Speaker C: Take that out. Because we're not that far removed from it. And we see that as laws in America, again, speaks to the american perspective, where we just had Roe v. Wade. That's gone. You cannot go legally go get an abortion in most states in America right now. So we have. So we have issues that come from the ideologies of slavery that are permeated in society and are being out actively pursued by a great number of american population.
And so.
And that's what Kendrick was doing, was speaking to a greater intellectual group that heard him and really heard him. And that's what Pac was talking about.
[01:11:19] Speaker D: Speak on it.
[01:11:20] Speaker C: He was one of the most intellectual, prophetic voices that we will ever hear. We have. Not just even. And that's what he really was trying to say. We haven't even had someone even close to pop since Pop died.
[01:11:34] Speaker D: I must agree.
[01:11:35] Speaker C: I mean, he was so not only understanding of his black intellectualism, but also just his cultural identity, his national identity, his racial identity. Like, I'm gonna be a black, and I'm gonna be black true to where I'm from, my hood, my set. I'm not gonna change for y'all. And he went to have this great documentary. Is he on FX or Hulu? That, you know, you really go back to when pop was in high school. He went to the white schools. He was in Cali, you know, like, so I think that's what the biggest takeaway is. I don't. I hope it's over in context of Drake can go back to making. And that's the other thing that I think Kendrick highlighted, too, is we actually like the thoughtful, intellectual Drake speaking on his feelings. What it made him feel to want a girl and couldn't get her or, like, you know, want this or, you know, I don't know.
You know, feelings of home and wanting to be home, you know, I don't know.
[01:12:45] Speaker A: Not to introduce any park slander, but didn't he assume a new identity when he moved to California?
[01:12:50] Speaker C: Who?
[01:12:52] Speaker A: Tupac?
[01:12:53] Speaker C: We will not.
[01:12:55] Speaker A: He from New York. He moved to California and assumed a gang lifestyle. But he wasn't a gang member.
[01:13:03] Speaker C: I will not take.
[01:13:04] Speaker D: But how long was he in New York, though?
[01:13:07] Speaker A: His whole life.
[01:13:10] Speaker C: He kind of had a.
[01:13:12] Speaker A: He moved. He left New York when he was, like, 19 or 20.
[01:13:15] Speaker C: Yeah, no, he went to high school in Cali. He definitely went to high school in Cali.
So I'm telling you, that's a fact. Site me and fight me.
I'm telling you that's a fact.
But. But, yeah, I won't ever participate in Cox lander. So with that said, let's just go ahead and get into keeping it on the west coast. So I he swahiki. Every time I see her name, I'd be like, why? She doesn't want to be called sweetie.
[01:13:50] Speaker D: I know.
[01:13:52] Speaker C: I like sweetie, but swahiti.
[01:13:57] Speaker D: Saweetie.
[01:13:58] Speaker C: Saweetie.
[01:13:59] Speaker D: Sweetie got a new song and video.
[01:14:01] Speaker C: Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Her name? Yeah.
What do you feel about it?
[01:14:07] Speaker D: All this last night, so I just threw it on here.
[01:14:10] Speaker C: I enjoyed it.
[01:14:11] Speaker D: I feel like sweetie be getting a lot of slander. Like, her music is trash, but people be saying it. And I think it's because they expect her to be like a. Like a formidable female rapper. When I feel like she just making fun songs and having a good time. I just wanted to say, shout out to sweetie because she killed that choreo in the video.
And I think it's a fun song. I think it's going to be a summer bop. So if y'all ain't seen it, I think it's called Nani.
I enjoyed it, which I think. Did y'all.
[01:14:47] Speaker C: Yeah. That's how you say it.
[01:14:48] Speaker B: It is.
[01:14:49] Speaker C: Yeah. Nani. I gave it a quick look. She looked like a barbie. She's like Malibu. That's how I feel. I feel like she gives the black Barbie of Cali. She gives me Marla. She gives me black Malibu. Malibu Barbie. She always has.
[01:15:05] Speaker D: I would agree.
And speaking of super fine women that could get it, congratulations to Angel Reese.
[01:15:17] Speaker C: The bayou. The bayou Barbie.
Yeah. I love that.
You know, they did a lot of coverage on her amidst the Caitlyn Clark coverage, and I really enjoyed that. We got to know more about how she and her brother both will be graduating with bachelor's degrees at the respective universities this year. So, congratulations. Congratulations again. Back to black mothers. Black motherhood, black nurturing black women who stand in the paint as single mothers to raise these babies. So I think that's. I think that's just a real testament to how important it is to not only be famous, but also take care of the things that are important as black people being educated.
You know, she had a very successful career at LSU after winning a national championship, being in championship play for the duration of her time at LSU. And, you know, for those who aren't familiar with, you know, her, and you should be, if you're not, if not, take some time to look up her story, but to basically say, nod of this. This thing in Baltimore, this ain't working.
I gotta find a way. You know, it goes back to the ingenuity of, you know, that's the creativeness that comes when we talk about black women, black mothers that raise these children. Like, it don't always look like the way it's supposed to look. And for her to pivot and turn it into gold, angel would have just been another girl that we knew that was working at, and this is real. Like, she could have been the next girl we saw working in target or we saw working in McDonald's. And I'm saying that, in a way, to really elevate.
What do you gain? What is the success that you can have by means of education and sports? Right. How do you really cap. How do you capitalize on these things then, even when you go into music, these. These areas of where you can turn and change your life into a profit? Because one thing she mentioned in one of the coverage, things I said is, like, there is no way her mom was going to be able to get her even a student loan.
You know, it's just. It was interesting to hear her really talk about, um, the landing page of, like. And I got my degree. What?
I love it.
[01:17:59] Speaker D: All I know is she find that big, tall stallion could get it. Okay, cool.
[01:18:08] Speaker A: Is that the consensus?
[01:18:10] Speaker D: But that's my consensus.
[01:18:12] Speaker C: I.
[01:18:17] Speaker D: I could get it.
[01:18:19] Speaker C: I don't. I don't. Um, I. Because I meant to mention this earlier. I didn't really like her met Gala look.
It looked. But she got invited, and so I felt like she had to do something risque, because that would ensure then she would further get more invitations, I believe. Um, because what's the other blonde girl? Uh, the. The one that went to LA. She's, like, the perfect look for la, too.
[01:18:49] Speaker A: Cameron brink.
[01:18:50] Speaker C: Yeah. Now she is like, yeah, I like her a lot. That's. That's a tall. White women are usually not that pretty in that one.
[01:19:01] Speaker D: She.
[01:19:02] Speaker C: Yeah, she looks like. She's gorgeous. She's beautiful, and so.
[01:19:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:19:09] Speaker C: Shout out to angel. We love you. I can't wait to get my jersey number five. You know, I'm just waiting because of. Apparently, the women can make the teams, but they can get kicked off the teams, too. I don't really know too much about WNBA.
[01:19:24] Speaker D: Me neither.
[01:19:25] Speaker C: But apparently, you know, it's. It's a thing, and then, you know, Caitlin, I'm glad people. I think when the great dawn coach Stanley said what Caitlin Clark is doing for the. The sport is. Needs to just be accepted, I think everybody kind of walked away from that energy, and I love it because I'm not a big Caitlyn fan. I think she's a great player, but I thought that it was nice that everyone kind of backed away and just started focusing on the girls and.
But also, a question to each of you. How much do y'all think that did it take this to happen for the WNBA to start putting money in back in these teams?
[01:20:20] Speaker D: I think it was a combination of things. I'll go ahead.
[01:20:25] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I was just. We were probably gonna say the same thing. I think it was.
I think it did take this.
The WNBA wasn't exciting, but if they could take the excitement that this last past college season had and transition that into the WNBA, like, I don't care how it. How it happens. Like, as long as it happened, maybe. So what, it took 30 years, you know, it happened eventually. I mean, everything gonna take time.
[01:20:53] Speaker C: Yeah. And, um, for it to overshadow, I think you give a great point for it to overshadow.
Like, to me, I got my basketball field. Have you been watching the playoffs? I haven't watched no playoff games, and this is. I never miss the playoffs. Never.
[01:21:16] Speaker A: I'm room for them Timberwolves. That. That boy ant man. Room for him from Atlanta.
[01:21:25] Speaker C: Okay, who's in it? I don't.
[01:21:29] Speaker A: The teams left or Dallas. They just sealed the western conference finals. We'll know that the. The ending of Nuggets Timberwolves tonight. This their game seven. That'll complete the Western Conference. Eastern Conference. The Knicks and paces are going to game seven. And Boston beat. Who'd Boston beat?
Boston.
Boston beat the Cavs. So Eastern Conference finals.
[01:22:02] Speaker C: Yeah. I did hear the rumblings about Boston.
You know, as a heat fan, we hate them, but I do like it for the coach. You know, people freak, have a quick memory lapses of how the predecessor, the coach now took on the team after the foolishness of that man that cheaped on Nia Long. And, you know, I just love that he's found success there. And they are still steamrolling as an organization, because sometimes when you take leadership out like that, especially when it's something of a personal nature, it can sometimes translate bad to the team. But luckily, here, team culture prevailed, and I think it's. I think it's kind of cool. You said the Knicks are still in it, right?
[01:22:56] Speaker A: Yeah, they're going to. Well, at the time of this recording, they'll be going to game seven with the pacers.
[01:23:02] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't. I still hate the Knicks, but.
[01:23:08] Speaker D: Why not?
[01:23:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Early 2000, late nineties. Nick. Nick's heat beef everlasting for show.
Um, I will say, uh, I'm cool with. With the. Just to bring it back to the WNBA real quick. I'm cool with the Caitlin Clark stem. I mean, she's every, every city they play in, she's. They sell out. Um, and now the women have, you know, the chartered flights, which they should have been had. And, hello, the way this will translate is probably in a couple years where they actually get pay increases, because I'm sure everybody saw what Caitlin Clark was going to make in her first year just as salary. And they were like, what? We didn't know this is what they made.
[01:23:52] Speaker D: Oh, I know.
[01:23:53] Speaker A: It's like them having regular jobs.
[01:23:55] Speaker D: Yeah. You might as well work for Ups.
[01:23:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, right.
[01:23:59] Speaker C: I mean, I think ups people make more money than that. That's what somebody.
[01:24:02] Speaker A: That's what they say.
[01:24:04] Speaker D: That's what they were saying. But I found that out a few years ago because my friend that I used to go to the gym with used to be in a WMEA, and she was telling me how they didn't make and would be right on Delta in the main cabin with everybody else.
[01:24:19] Speaker A: Yeah. So what a lot of WB NBA players were doing was in the offseason, they go play in Russia and Italy and overseas and actually made more money over there just to supplement their income here.
[01:24:33] Speaker C: What I like, well, like the movie. Oh, yeah.
[01:24:36] Speaker A: That's how Britney got stuck.
[01:24:38] Speaker C: That's why she got stuck over there. And I think that's. I think that's. I'm glad you brought that up, because it took a black woman being arrested over there. And I mean, Britney, for the most part, she might have always been, you know, more in the masculine, but Britney is, like, all masculine now. And I think that's because prison over there hardened her. Like, you can tell she is more. And, like, I'm not. And she's beautiful. And I'm not saying like this, as in, you know, as a, anyone in the community, she was either more masculine or feminine. I'm saying, you see physical, you see the difference of pre being arrested and post. And I think that that's interesting that you say that, because we find ourselves so many times trying to find, trying to protect women, black women, especially after the fact. And have they been paying. Brittany was one of the most celebrated basketball players of her time. Like, she's up there with the rest of the people we think of, like Candace Parker. Shout out to her, I'm so glad she's getting her flowers, and she's gonna be able to retire. And she's taking on the president, see, in an executive role, because at the end of the day. There is marketability in the dub. I think that's what I'm saying. I just think it was always kind of exciting. But if you couldn't have the funds or the money or the resources to kind of put something behind it, I mean, that's like, if you don't invest in it. You've said it before, twin. If you. It take money to make money, if you don't invest in it, like.
And that was a big culture shock, I think, for a lot of the women, because you had a lot of these girls that play at big schools, like Tennessee, LSU. They come from big schools. And, yeah, they used to share the weight rooms and stuff with the football team, but for the most part, they understood that there is a marketability in sports.
[01:26:51] Speaker A: I just want. Oh, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
[01:26:54] Speaker D: No, go ahead. I was going to change the subject.
[01:26:58] Speaker A: Oh, I want. I just got two things. Um, I just been noticing, uh, the rest of the league's acceptance of Caitlin Clark. I'm sure they appreciate appreciative. Well, Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, you know, this new crop of young talent, I'm sure they're appreciative, but they. Given Caitlin Clark hell.
They whoop her on the court. Oh, yeah, they setting screens, and pigs she bust falling. They. It's looking crazy out there. She looks so small, too. That's a while.
[01:27:30] Speaker C: I know, right? Like, she look like a giant in college. But I heard she says she, you know, she holding her own.
[01:27:37] Speaker A: Yeah, she's doing all right, but I guess they thought she was gonna come in and just start setting records and, you know, blah, blah, blah. But now you still. You still legit like you. Come on. Come on. You still a rookie?
[01:27:49] Speaker C: What you got? Twin?
[01:27:50] Speaker D: I see the, uh, the before and after. A Brittany griner.
[01:27:55] Speaker C: I told you.
[01:27:58] Speaker D: Oh, I didn't even notice.
[01:28:01] Speaker C: The.
[01:28:03] Speaker D: Girl was. My girl was in that russian prison going through it.
[01:28:08] Speaker C: Amen.
[01:28:12] Speaker D: I don't mean to cut the sports talk off, but hot off the press.
[01:28:17] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:28:18] Speaker D: Diddy combs apologizes for assaulting Cassie in 2016 video.
[01:28:25] Speaker C: Oh, he apologized.
[01:28:27] Speaker D: Yeah, I just got the pop up just now?
[01:28:29] Speaker C: Yeah. Wow. I saw it at the top of the podcast. They was rumbling about it, but I didn't want to, um.
Want to jump to it, but as God does it, as God wills, as we're talking about black women and protecting them, you know, I just.
And we've talked about Diddy before. I don't even want to say his name no more because he's. He. Ain't he a real fan? And not the freaky, but the other f word.
Like the levels to this.
Just plain old.
And I don't. Just given quick thoughts as everyone brings up his video.
[01:29:22] Speaker A: One moment. What other f word? Like the Florida fn f word.
[01:29:29] Speaker B: I would say just drop it in the chat. So we all are on the same page.
[01:29:34] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean by FM.
[01:29:37] Speaker D: Yeah, that's you.
[01:29:38] Speaker C: Okay. He a fan. He a fan. He a fan. And I don't. And I don't even want to say his name no more because I. When I say utter disgust. Discussion. Disgusting. Disgusted.
And we knew there was footage. We just. It's almost like, you know, cops kill black people, but until you see them on their next fletching pearls, why would Cassie, after all those years, say what she said and they're not be some type of video evidence of what actually transpired and what happened? No. And it had to take it being released. So one, how do we learn to protect black women? Because the footage that was released also put Cassie in a particular situation where she had to relive the trauma if not seeing it herself. People that know her, fans that knew her.
If you very much gave Tina Turner, what's love got to do with it, Ike style, to 2022 thousands, the two thousands version, that's what he gave. 20th century version.
I don't feel like.
[01:31:08] Speaker D: I feel like he shouldn't have said nothing. This kind of makes it worse for me.
[01:31:12] Speaker C: Like, well, I wanted to give research team and Doug, since this is breaking news, and I'm sure once you guys are listening to us talk, there would be. They are going. There's going to be discussions on, discussions about this. Because, I mean, seriously, though, when are we going to learn to protect black women?
[01:31:41] Speaker B: When I think, for me, with the breaking news, with this whole situation, one, I think it's fair to say that he has experienced some type of trauma in his life.
Two, so has Cassie and all his other victims.
[01:32:02] Speaker C: Three, I'm.
[01:32:05] Speaker B: It's kind of hard. Like he's, you know, he done dropped the video apologizing. It's kind of hard to. To accept or decipher his apology because it's just like, well, you've already been sued and settled. Now this. This video has been dropped. And it's just like, are you apologizing because you don't got caught officially now? Like, we have the evidence to match your fool. Like, is this really genuine at this point? Are you just trying to do, like, pr and damage control?
[01:32:35] Speaker C: You know what I mean?
[01:32:36] Speaker B: So it's like, you could have saved it.
[01:32:42] Speaker A: Definitely could have saved it, because he done lost all his deals and stuff. Like, who you doing it for?
[01:32:49] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like, are you trying to minimize the already catastrophic damage, or, like, what's the point? Like, what's really. What's the point?
[01:33:01] Speaker C: I don't. I think that I can hear. Oh, it's like, the people that still love R. Kelly and those who protect Trey songs and those who protect other black men that harm black women, specifically black women, is.
[01:33:22] Speaker D: Did that hit a nerve recently?
[01:33:24] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. That if I say sorry, it should be okay. That's what it's giving. That's what my immediate takeaway was. Like, I'm sorry, y'all. My bad.
[01:33:38] Speaker D: Y'all know research team loves R. Kelly.
[01:33:41] Speaker A: So I was about. I was about to say the same thing. I was like, y'all can have trace on, but y'all can't. Y'all can't take cows.
[01:33:49] Speaker B: Because to me, with RK. Kelly is not.
To me, it's, like, all sick and all unwell people, and it's hard for me to, like, decipher and be like, oh. Because, you know, take away all his credibility as an artist because it came from trauma. Like, the songs is. The songs are songing. Like, I just. I don't know what you want me to do. And I'm also not a person to be like, oh, you know what? You did this thing. It was so egregious. That's a wrap. My. My thing that makes it a rap for me is like, well, what's your intent behind all of this? Like, what is the. The outcome? Like, what you trying to. Trying to gain out of this? And for me, I think with Diddy, he's just, like, apologizing because now his. He's caught. Like, now it's just like, oh, shit, I can't do nothing else. And for me, with r. Kelly, it wasn't like that. It was more like, dang you. You really can't. You don't almost have the capacity to decipher. And the parents that were also involved with helping him do his foolishness. So to me, it's a bit more multifaceted than it, you know, then saying, hey, r. Kelly, you're done. Versus diddy, bro. What?
[01:35:00] Speaker C: Well, I think. I think.
[01:35:03] Speaker D: I feel like that goes to your question, Pete. How do you protect black women?
[01:35:08] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:35:08] Speaker D: And I feel like it's not just a. You're canceled. You're done. It's a.
It sparks a larger conversation. Yes, you're canceled. And this is why. This is how everybody in the situation, including you, failed black women.
And this is what we need to do to do better. It's not just, oh, well, everybody was up in this situation, and so let's just continue listening. R. Kelly. Because everybody was found. How was everybody fat? Like, let's talk about that. If we just give people a pass because of their impact on the culture, then we'll, then that's why I said, I don't think we'll ever be, we'll ever be protected. And I don't think that that's the same. I feel like white women are protected by white men in a way that we are not protected by you getting that holy spirit or anybody else.
[01:36:02] Speaker C: Like, go ahead, preach.
[01:36:04] Speaker D: Anybody, like a white man gonna come to the savior of a white woman if she gets any goddamn thing. But we see a child molester who been a child molester for 30 years, and we just be like, oh, well, everybody involved was fucked up. And he made some good music, so I'm good. And that's why I feel like we will never be protected. And that's why we have to protect ourselves. Jasmine Crockett. Because there is nobody out there that sees the black woman's tears and be like, you know what?
This ain't right, and we need to do something about it.
[01:36:40] Speaker A: Hello to these.
There were black women complicit in r. Kelly's foolishness, just like there are white.
[01:36:54] Speaker D: Women complicit in white people foolishness. But that doesn't, that doesn't still make them any less protected than we are if we're just saying, oh, well, black women are complicit, so fuck it.
[01:37:07] Speaker A: No, but what I'm saying is who y'all can't protect y'all. Y'all aren't protecting yourselves.
[01:37:14] Speaker C: So I think it goes back to.
[01:37:17] Speaker D: Rick, we need help being protected.
[01:37:21] Speaker C: The protective, never been protected.
[01:37:23] Speaker D: So how are we going to know how to protect ourselves if no one has ever protected us?
[01:37:29] Speaker C: We are speaking to the question, and I think that's what I think lands here that is appropriate for, as we conclude the show today is that's what we're talking about, is how are we going to protect black women? Yes, there's a level of self reflection that is needed among black women, but we're talking largely in the context of the culture, because we see it time and time again where black women are not protected in the culture. With an example of the Shannon Sharp and Amanda Seals interview. Right. I mean, it was crazy to see how she was talking about her lived experience experiences. And for him to be like you said, that's what happened, right?
[01:38:23] Speaker D: And Slim thug came out talking about, oh, well, um.
[01:38:28] Speaker C: My bad. I'm sorry.
[01:38:30] Speaker D: Now. Now that I've seen the footage, I apologize.
[01:38:33] Speaker C: What? Huh?
[01:38:36] Speaker B: Slim, sir.
[01:38:38] Speaker C: And I like slim, you know, and it's in. But he's an old head, and what's the old head? And so that's what I'm saying is disappointing. It's disappointing that we have black women who go through these experiences, live these experiences, and then when they have the courage to talk about, it's like, that ain't happy.
[01:39:02] Speaker D: Correct.
[01:39:03] Speaker B: Negating the whole experience. Well, sir, how you gonna tell me what I experienced? How you gonna tell me my feelings about this situation and I was the one in it and you were not.
[01:39:14] Speaker C: Yeah. So I think.
[01:39:18] Speaker D: And really, to everybody's point here, when you are a traumatized people who've never been protected, something has to change so that you can protect yourselves and that you feel protected by other people. And so if we just continue letting things like this slide instead. Oh, well, you know, these people were complicit. So it's like, well, we need to teach these people why being complicit was a problem and how they were complicit so that this shit doesn't happen again.
[01:39:52] Speaker B: I agree with that statement. And for me, with the whole, like, R. Kelly situation and the diddy situation, they're. They're both nuanced and definitely deserve their own, like, discussion and platform. Platform to dissect each situation. I just think, for me, it's very hard to decipher and be like, hey, there. You know, this is their artistry, and that's that. And then this is their personal life, and that's that. That's like, the same thing with, you know, Cosby and all these other artists who do egregious things. Like, at the end of the day, they're human, and people are just wilding. And to me, it's like, well, what's their intent behind all of these things? And, like, their apologies or, you know.
Correct. But who gives them the power and who helps them continue the control for decades upon decades? I think it's a bigger, like, conversation when it comes to, like, diddy and R. Kelly and Trey songs and whoever else, because to me, it's just, like, for me, in my mind, I can't just be like, okay, this happened. This happened. So this equals this. So I'm gonna do this. It's just, like, not so much. Like, two things can be true. Yes, you can be an abuser. Yes, you can be a horrible person, but also, you can make some very classic and authentic music.
Like, those two things can be true.
[01:41:23] Speaker C: And maybe I.
[01:41:24] Speaker D: Maybe I feel differently because I have been the victim of abuse. So it's very difficult for me to separate the abuser from, like, there is no separate. To me, like, you're an abuser and everything you've done was produced by a person. And, like, you're saying they're human.
I agree, but I treat celebrities as I would treat anybody else in my life. If I realized you're a abuser and you don't deserve to be in my life, then it don't matter if you famous or not. Like, I'm. I can't with that. And I realized me and my ex got into it about this, because I do feel like there's a difference between those who have been through it and those who have not. And I do feel like if you haven't personally been through abuse, it's easier for you to separate the two. But for me, when I hear someone's an abuser, that's all I hear.
That's it.
[01:42:27] Speaker C: Like, all I can say, right, that's all you need.
[01:42:30] Speaker D: I'm done, and I just can't be involved. Like, I don't hear the music over the abusive part. All I hear is, you're an abuser. And if I continue to support you, you're gonna think it's okay to continue abusing people.
[01:42:45] Speaker C: And, um, I like to kind of wrap it up, because I'm sure by the time that. Again, y'all listening to us, um, there are going to be so many takeaways. Uh, maybe it's not. Maybe this will just recycle, cycle quickly through the news. Um, but how I have now, when I think about violence against black women in any type of shape or form, either through emotional, physical, or spiritual abuse, I really look at it from the perspective of, I try to think, like, what if that was Michelle Obama?
And then what if that was Barack Obama, the guy?
And I know that's like a very.
That's a very high standard.
[01:43:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I was about to say that's like, blasphemy. That's crazy.
[01:43:44] Speaker C: Yeah, but imagine it. But imagine that's here. That's literally how I start to think about violence against black women and how we treasure and treat black women is I really started thinking from that perspective, because the bigger question that still doesn't get so solved is what makes a black man even feel the need to put the hands, their physical, you know, violence on a black woman. I mean, because the closest video I can think that this is. That that is as violent and was worse was, um, that the football player who, you know. Yeah, Ray Rice, when he knocked out his wife.
[01:44:30] Speaker D: Doubt about that.
[01:44:33] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying?
[01:44:35] Speaker B: No, that was just crazy.
[01:44:38] Speaker C: He was tripping. You know, it's. And we. And we felt like it was even more brutal because he was an athlete. Right. We felt like it was even more brutal because he was an athlete. And we knew physically, you know, he could take hits. So clearly he can give him. And I just think that that was a level of where people didn't believe that Diddy could do this is because. Or that fanboy that he could do this was because.
And please make sure that we bleep out his name, because I really. I'm so disgusted with him. And I say that because, please. Because I love. I love the music. And I wouldn't.
[01:45:23] Speaker D: And I was about it.
[01:45:26] Speaker C: I really, really love the music.
[01:45:29] Speaker B: I really didn't like it like that. But go ahead.
[01:45:31] Speaker C: I love the music. I love what he did for black people. I love what he represented for the culture. And now I cannot.
There is no. And this goes out to anyone that's listening to any person. There is no reason to physically deal with any type of violence against your own person or for you to dish that out to anyone else. And I think we can really end on that. You know, when we're thinking about, um, shot o'clock is, you know, what's really the non negotiables in a relationship. What are those things that if there's one thing you gonna take a shot to that is a non negotiable in a relationship, what is it? Because I'm a, you know, I'm a gun owner, so at this point in my life, I, you know, it would take just a feather of a finger to touch me. And I think that's. I think it's a healthy response to go get my weapon.
So I don't know if that's really a non negotiable, because I feel like. I think you mentioned it earlier, research team is like, a lot of how you're loved and you're treated is based on what that person. I'm not saying that Cassie warranted to be beat down like that, but one thing that I noticed right away was she. That was really still under the influence that she claimed and said, because she run fast enough for me, if somebody was beating me down like that, I have to. I gotta be hauling. If this is my one getaway.
[01:47:10] Speaker B: We don't know, but we don't know if she was like, you know, drug or had some type of, like, we don't know if she's under.
[01:47:21] Speaker C: Yeah, she said she was drugs all the time. So I'm saying is, if you're in a drug state and you trying to get away, that's one of the things I noticed immediately. I was like, oh, her claims of being drugs or being often heavily drugs is true because there's no way somebody is beating you down that way. You're just. She wasn't. It was like she weren't running away fast enough for me because, well, you.
[01:47:48] Speaker D: Know, you be in shock when you be in the moment and somebody is physically assaulting you.
[01:47:55] Speaker C: What she.
I'm going based on the claims, based on the lawsuit. The lawsuit said that at the point of when this occurred, he had been beating her for years, like, and this was the one time.
Right.
[01:48:09] Speaker D: That was normal.
[01:48:10] Speaker C: Right.
[01:48:11] Speaker D: Going back home.
[01:48:12] Speaker B: Right.
[01:48:13] Speaker C: But. But I'm saying is, if you have. We're talking about non negotiables in a relationship, and physical violence isn't one of them. I don't think that's a non negotiable because I feel like at some point now, having people have experiences being abused, I don't even think that's a non negotiable, because I think that that's an understatement. Is a clear understanding in a relationship.
[01:48:41] Speaker D: If you're some people.
[01:48:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I was gonna say, I don't know if that's a non negotiable. Like, I think it depends on your person. And she may not have been as whole and healed as she is like today.
[01:48:54] Speaker C: Oh, I want to clarify. Not her. I'm saying is I'm taking a takeaway from that is, if I'm in a relationship with somebody, we should enter knowing that if you put lay a finger on me, I am a guy, I am a gun owner, or I, like, I have knives, my immediate response is going to be to you. So if you dare to do that, having that saying, having dealt with abuse in the past, I'm saying is that that's a non negotiation. Easily non negotiable for me in a relationship. I can think of other things that are non negotiable, like people having kids that are under two. That's a non negotiable well being.
[01:49:40] Speaker D: Domestic violence is definitely a non negotiable for me. And I've definitely had to pull a gun out on a so out there, don't and try it. But let's talk about somebody who is not abusive mothers. We go end on shot o'clock.
Even though we started out a little depressed, my mother was amazing. She was the most amazing mother ever.
And I want to do a shot to all the mothers out there. Dub, give us a little nice shot of clock to the mothers.
[01:50:15] Speaker A: Um, yeah, let's, let's take a shot to all the mothers. They are, you know, well, most mothers, they are the backbone of most families. I mean, they keep everybody together, make sure everybody good mothers, grandmothers, aunties, whoever you got in your life that you are, that you are and can be thankful for.
I think they deserve a shot.
[01:50:44] Speaker D: Shout out to the mothers. I'm taking a shot at thera flu as I done caught a little something.
But we love you mothers.
Thank you for being you. And if you a terrible mom, you.
[01:51:00] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure, they exist. They just as bad as terrible dads.
[01:51:05] Speaker D: They are.
Wow.
[01:51:08] Speaker B: Shots for my mom as well. And my Grammy Graham's drinking coffee.
[01:51:15] Speaker D: 96.
[01:51:18] Speaker C: Yeah. I'd like to say, as you all know, I don't have.
I went to therapy for the therapist to reaffirm this. I never had that motherly attachment to anyone because I was abandoned by my mother. And so I just like to shout out to all the amazing women out there that adhere to the energy, those who don't have children as well and embody their feminine, divine energy and nurture others in their community, nurture those through representation of what success looks like.
Because if it wasn't for the many women in my life that were positive influences of what womanhood looks like, I'm very grateful and appreciative to those who are still living today and those who have passed on. So I take a shot to all the women out there who really embrace the divine feminine energy they possess. So shout out to all y'all ladies, y'all. Amazing.
[01:52:47] Speaker A: Toast to the moms.
[01:52:51] Speaker D: Shout out to the moms.
[01:52:54] Speaker A: And with that, we would like to conclude this episode. Please, please, please follow us on all social media platforms. Twitter at call your cousins. C a l l y o u r c o u s I n. Instagram at call your cousins pod. Please subscribe to our YouTube at call your cousins as well. And, you know, send us them emails. We love to hear from y'all. Um, at call your cousins
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Fantastic four, love y'all.
[01:53:32] Speaker D: Don't let nobody know you just pull your gun on them instead.
[01:53:37] Speaker B: Um, until next time, we.
[01:53:40] Speaker A: We do not condone violence on this pod.
[01:53:44] Speaker C: Peace.
[01:53:45] Speaker B: Deuces. Bye, deuce.
